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Sanity -> Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/26/2009 7:51:06 PM)


This article just blows my mind. What the hell happened here? Will the whole story ever be told? There's so much wrong with this. What really surprises me more than anything is finding some real journalism in the Idaho Statesman, which has become your typical far left mouth piece for the Democratic party, as have almost all modern newspapers.

The article is fairly long, and TOS rules prohibit posting more than brief excerpts due to copyright infringement laws, so I would encourage you to click on the link provided below and read the whole thing for yourself.

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Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people, including an Idaho couple's daughter

In a remote area of eastern Utah's Book Cliffs, north of Interstate 70 close to the Colorado border, a dirt road breaks through rolling terrain fissured by canyons. It dead-ends in a box canyon pocked with junipers.

On April 22, a warm and sunny spring day, Howard and Darlene Emry trekked up the canyon's sandy wash and stood at the base of an escarpment. An FBI agent who led the Emrys on the hike pointed to a small rock ledge midway up the cliff.

This was the spot, hidden from view from above and below, where the body of the Emrys' 24-year-old daughter, LeAnn, was found.

LeAnn was officially declared a victim of homicide just this past week, but she lay on that ledge for almost six years, since some time around the January 2003 day when she checked out of a Colorado hotel and was never heard from again.

The spot was so remote and so hidden that the FBI may never have found it if it wasn't for a man named Scott Lee Kimball.

Kimball, a 42-year-old Colorado native who has been in trouble with the law his entire adult life, led authorities this March along that desolate road to LeAnn.

The 10-time felon - who continued to get in trouble even as an FBI informant and witness - is serving more than 50 years in prison for theft and a federal gun charge. But he left a trail of dead and missing people behind him.

In 2007, a hunter found the body of Kaysi McLeod, 19, who disappeared in August 2003 - just days before Kimball married her mother.

Last month, Kimball led authorities to a body believed to be his uncle, missing since Sept. 1, 2004, in a remote mountain pass west of Denver.

Jennifer Marcum, a woman who vanished Feb. 17, 2003, while Kimball was keeping tabs on her for the FBI, has never been found.

All three - and LeAnn - were last seen with Kimball.

But Kimball has yet to be charged with a crime in connection to their deaths or disappearances. He insists he did not kill anyone but knows who did and helped dispose of the bodies.

And a complex plea agreement may keep the Emrys and the families of the other missing people forever in the dark about what happened to their loves ones.

(Full article here).




DarkSteven -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/26/2009 8:19:03 PM)

My take on the article:  The FBI needs moles, and it operates covertly.  I assume that a lot of its informants are unsavory characters.  Hopefully. not too many murderers, though.




Arpig -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/26/2009 9:19:24 PM)

What i wonder is why he is not being charged, or why is he not being made to reveal who did the killings.....who are they protecting?




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/26/2009 10:19:08 PM)

OK, let me get this straight. The guy is supposedly an informant for the FBI. If he knows who killed all these people, but has never gotten around to mentioning it to the FBI, who the hell has he been informing on? Or am I a little cloudy on what it is that informants typically do?




Loki45 -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 1:30:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

OK, let me get this straight. The guy is supposedly an informant for the FBI. If he knows who killed all these people, but has never gotten around to mentioning it to the FBI, who the hell has he been informing on? Or am I a little cloudy on what it is that informants typically do?


The guy is an informant for other things ....and he's a murderer, according to the article. So naturally he's not going to 'inform' on himself. And whatever he's informing on is important enough, supposedly, that the FBI is letting him get away scott free with murder.




Rule -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 2:31:56 AM)

I have read the article and started to suspect that the victim was working for some agency and on the trail of drug trafficking. This was confirmed when I next read these lines:
 
"Alarmed, Holley wrote back and urged the Emrys to talk to a specific FBI agent who had been in contact with LeAnn. Emry called the agent, who said Holley was a liar. (Emry wonders if LeAnn was an informant herself, but the FBI will neither confirm nor deny that.)"
 
My conclusion is that Kimball was let out of prison for the specific purpose of assisting in the murder of the victim - so that was decided on and planned two weeks before her disappearance.
 
The victim's speleology expeditions were digging - and thus translate to investigation of criminal activities. She said it herself: "I'm in an underground world," which in Dutch translates into onderwereld: the hidden nether world of crime.
 
Thus she was investigating drug trafficking for the FBI. She discovered something, made her report to her superior, who probably sent it on to his own superior. Either of them or another FBI higher up who was informed about the discovery, having the mission to protect this drug trafficking, decided that the victim knew too much and had to die and ordered her to be murdered, and arranged for Kimball to be released to assist in her murder; he also arranged for the new 'speleology expedition' of the victim, causing her to travel all over the country on false trails that eventually led to her planned torture and murder.




Sanity -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 6:16:01 AM)


I think they're covering their own absolute gross misconduct in this case. They had to have known that this guy was all kinds of madness just from his prison nickname, "Hannibal". One of the women who ended up dead who he had apparently been in charge of at the time of her death even referred to him as "Hannibal", so that was also probably his FBI nick as well.

So what does that tell you?



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ORIGINAL: Arpig

What i wonder is why he is not being charged, or why is he not being made to reveal who did the killings.....who are they protecting?




Irishknight -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 6:42:02 AM)

I know who he's covering for. It was Bush .... and Cheney... and Sarah Palin. (Someone was gonna try to blame this on them.)

In truth though, this is a horrific story. The FBI should be forced to pay reperations to the families of the victims. They are accomplices to murder.




IrishMist -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 7:53:42 AM)

*shrug*
Such is the world we live in




servantforuse -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 8:21:30 AM)

I think we should get the information from him using 'enhanced interrogation' techniques. The Obama administration hasn't ruled them out all together. A good old water boarding session would make him talk...




Rule -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 9:04:44 AM)

He doesn't know anything. One day some guy asked to speak to him. "Hey Kimball, I know that you like to torture and rape women. Would you like to get out of prison for a couple of weeks and do this chick, and get paid for it to boot?"
"That is a pretty girl. Sure. What have I got to do?"
"You only have to pretend to know something about some criminal activity. I will tell you everything you have got to know to fool the FBI. Other than that: make sure that you pick up your messages at 20:00 hours every evening from the hotel reception."
 
Of course he has seen that guy, as well as the designated hitman, but he doesn't know their true identities, and he knows better than to talk for if he does, he will be murdered in prison.
 
If you want to waterboard anyone, then waterboard all involved FBI agents until one of them talks. The order to murder the victim was given by someone in the FBI.




LaTigresse -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 9:06:43 AM)

The really frightening thing is how much of this sort of bungled up crap probably goes on that we never know about.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 9:32:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

OK, let me get this straight. The guy is supposedly an informant for the FBI. If he knows who killed all these people, but has never gotten around to mentioning it to the FBI, who the hell has he been informing on? Or am I a little cloudy on what it is that informants typically do?


The guy is an informant for other things ....and he's a murderer, according to the article. So naturally he's not going to 'inform' on himself. And whatever he's informing on is important enough, supposedly, that the FBI is letting him get away scott free with murder.



Sure. I agree that's what happened; I'm just ridiculing his alibi. According to the article, the FBI confronted him about all the dead bodies associated with him, and his response was something like, "Dead bodies? What dead bodies? Oh, those dead bodies! No, no, I didn't kill them. But I know who did!" So according to him, all this time that he was supposedly on the FBI's payroll as an informant, he had knowledge of at least 4 murders, but did not share that information. I'm calling bullshit on his story.




Nosathro -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 9:44:05 AM)

This is nothing new, the FBI and Justice Department have programs in which criminals like this one continue to do as the wish, just as this guy did, when caught, they tell the FBI, they have information on a top criminal or terrorist, drop the charges and he tell them all about it, the FBI gets the charges dropped, hides him, new name, location, and all, at taxpayers expense, trouble the information is useless. 
 
Several years ago two FBI agents in Boston, were protecting some old High School friends.  The Agents claimed their friends, now local gangs members could provided information on the Mob, all the old high school friend did was rob and murder, the FBI agents knew this but did nothing hoping that they would get information that would led to a major Mob arrest, it never happened.




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Former FBI informant leaves a trail of dead people (7/27/2009 12:46:56 PM)

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Several years ago two FBI agents in Boston, were protecting some old High School friends. The Agents claimed their friends, now local gangs members could provided information on the Mob, all the old high school friend did was rob and murder, the FBI agents knew this but did nothing hoping that they would get information that would led to a major Mob arrest, it never happened.


James "Whitey" Bulger. He's still at large actually. http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/bulger.htm




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