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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/11/2009 9:48:59 AM

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The Google OS Is Doomed
Five reasons why the new Chrome operating system is a bad idea.
By Farhad ManjooPosted Thursday, July 9, 2009, at 5:52 PM ET

Firm

Excellent article.

More evidence, superbly written, to describe clearly why the only reason to adopt Google's OS is so you can shout from the rooftops "FUCK YOU MICROSOFT", end up with an OS that can only do 4 - 6% of those that already dominate their field....and obtain a whopping $50.00 in savings to achieve this vaulted status.

Yaaaaaaay.....(I bet Microsoft is just now having toilet paper dispensers installed in every hallway of every building they occupy in anticipation of management shitting their pants when Google takes over the world with 2% of the OS market over the next 20 years).

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/11/2009 7:09:53 PM

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I wish them luck. I was a huge fan of DOS and was angry when I had to switch. I got over it with XP and actually liked the OS. Then came the ass screwing of forcing Vista on us. Quite honestly, the longer I am forced to work with Vista, the more I hope Bill Gates and his entire design team get raped by a horny rhino.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/11/2009 7:29:34 PM

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I wish them luck. I was a huge fan of DOS and was angry when I had to switch. I got over it with XP and actually liked the OS. Then came the ass screwing of forcing Vista on us. Quite honestly, the longer I am forced to work with Vista, the more I hope Bill Gates and his entire design team get raped by a horny rhino.

Hahahahahahahaha....

The rumor mill seems to b quite fond of Windows 7.

Don't know enough about that kind of thing to argue for or against.

(I went through the same thing with Windows when it came out..."what's wrong with DOS????")

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/11/2009 8:22:34 PM

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Win 7 is to Vista as XP was to ME. I've been running the beta and now the RC and they're what Vista SHOULD have been. This is similar to the addage that even-numbered Star Trek films don't suck.

Everyone just loves to hate Microsoft. Not me - I love them. For one thig, I've made a pretty good career out of doing IT admin for Windows-based systems. For another, when one of my PC's crashes or misbehaves, a reboot will generally take care of it. I've had Macs crash that just never worked the same after without a complete re-install. And even then all was not always well.

Mac has always had a disctinct advantage in that Apple creates both the hardware and the OS. They dictate every aspect of what goes into a Mac. It makes life a LOT easier. MS writes an OS that has to work on a million combinations of system boards, sound cards, video processors, memory modules, etc, etc, etc. Yes, there are standards, but they really don't mean quite what you would expect. So MS has to load a million drivers to make sure the computer works. Not even a little bit easy. And then you get companies like Dell, HP, Gateway, etc who insist on loading crap software before your new PC ever enters your home. Blech! And even with all that disparate hardware floating araound, Windows does a pretty good job of pulling it all together and making it work.

I have a homebuilt PC with an OEM copy of XP Pro that hums along just fine - no tweaking, no 3rd-party crap, nothing I don't need. I do video editing on it and it cranks away and asks for more. Single CPU, 2gb RAM, and a good video card. Nothing fancy, just good, solid pieces-parts. And it runs rings around my Mac.

The bottom line for Linux, Mac (Linux with a pretty face), Ubuntu, Chrome, whatever, is that the business world will continue to use Windows products because they do what business need them to do and Windows IT folks are plentiful. Linux is making some in-roads but it's as much a political issue within many of those compaines as anything else. Businesses like to have a company stand behind the products they buy. Linus Torvald* does not do tech support.

Not that it matters, but when I bought my 1st computer there was no such thing as a PC or MS-DOS. I'm SO glad those days are far behind.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 11:15:12 AM

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Not that I love everything about Google, but damn, the battle will be fun!

Oh God Won't it! It will be all about who has bigger pockets and who can win the hearts and minds of the people

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 2:08:01 PM

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Yes, the instability of MS is not much worse than mac/linux. Yes, most of the problems stem from 3rd parties and hardware manufacturers but....

...MS always sucks system resources. Always is a little less stable....

Worst though, is their long history of beng dicks. Default setting are powerful, and every ms machine is set to use their browser, which they freely modify via the default automatic updates.

Anyone here remember MS removing the ability to save jpegs from IE? They did the same for PIE.

Google has been dedicated to "not evil", and has a great storehouse of goodwill.

I wish them well.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 4:57:12 PM

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Yes, the instability of MS is not much worse than mac/linux. Yes, most of the problems stem from 3rd parties and hardware manufacturers but....

...MS always sucks system resources. Always is a little less stable....

Worst though, is their long history of beng dicks. Default setting are powerful, and every ms machine is set to use their browser, which they freely modify via the default automatic updates.

Anyone here remember MS removing the ability to save jpegs from IE? They did the same for PIE.

Google has been dedicated to "not evil", and has a great storehouse of goodwill.

I wish them well.

Microsoft is evil.

Everything about Microsoft is evil.

All that is Microsoft is evil....Microsoft is bad....anything related to Microsoft is horrid....(I'm typing on MS Word right now....I'm evil....I was thinking about inputting on MS software....fuck me....I'm a sinner).

(Get the fuck over it).

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 5:21:36 PM

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... Mac (Linux with a pretty face), ...

Not a biggie here but... Mac OS X sits atop a BSD-equivalent core, not Linux. FreeBSD was used as the starting point. Apple has made enough changes to some of the userland utilities of FreeBSD that it has morphed into its own variant of BSD called Darwin.

Again, not a biggie to most non-tech people but to Un*x geeks, it's enough of a difference to start the Holy War between the *nixes. ;)

As to Google's OS, let 'em join the fracas. If it works, particularly in the portable network device space (netbooks, etc.) then so be it. As to whether it will eventually become stout enough or dependable enough to be used on a full general purpose desktop or laptop computer, that's up to speculation. I haven't read anything from Google to date that specifies that is their intention (then again, I've had some family matters that have taken time away from fully immersing myself in tech news for the past couple of weeks).

Regardless of who joins into the OS market, at this point I seriously doubt anyone will supplant Microsoft at the top of the market share heap, as far as OSes for general purpose computers are concerned. The massive installed base of Windows desktops and laptops running businesses and governments around the planet make it nearly impossible for any other OS to even come close to taking significant enough chunks of market share away from Microsoft; at least not enough of it for them to start quaking in their corporate boots.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 6:50:37 PM

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Okay, as I've said, I know jack shit about computers, etc... when I go to youTube, at the top it says they'll soon stop offering support for my browser, to switch to either Google Chrome, Firefox, or Windows 8... that's the operating system that's the topic of this thread, correct? Just curious.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 7:09:25 PM

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... when I go to youTube, at the top it says they'll soon stop offering support for my browser, to switch to either Google Chrome, Firefox, or Windows 8... that's the operating system that's the topic of this thread, correct?

In this case I believe the note is referring to using the Google Chrome the browser, not Google Chrome the OS. As far as I know, Google Chrome the OS is not available for installation on a desktop or laptop PC. Google Chrome the browser is, however.

* Google Chrome download page: http://www.google.com/chrome

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 7:12:02 PM

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Ah, thank you, sappatoti.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 8:00:11 PM

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Ah, thank you, sappatoti.

Microsoft is evil.

Everything that Microsoft has ever done is evil.

Everything that Microsoft will ever do is evil.

Microsoft = evil.

Microevil.

(I feel purged now).

It's like a weight has been lifted!

(facetious...in case anyone was curious)

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 8:10:40 PM

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There was a time when I would have lived the mantra...

"Destroy Microsoft
Microsoft Evil
Destroy Evil
Destroy Microsoft"

I think the biggest "evil" now out there is Facebook with Google being a really close second. The amount of personally identifiable information that both of those companies gather is stunning. The fact that masses of people are willing to voluntarily give up all of their personal information to be stored on their private servers is even more incredible. The potential for abuse is immense, yet everyone seems to feel Facebook and Google are "good citizens," despite the fact that privacy is based upon the promise and trust those two private companies will "do no harm."

Yet, all Microsoft has done has written some annoying, quirky, and sometimes frustratingly mediocre software and come up with an ingenious business plan or two to make their products nigh impossible to replace in business and government IT circles.

Hmm. I wonder where the potential for evil truly lies.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 8:31:20 PM

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Win 7 is to Vista as XP was to ME. I've been running the beta and now the RC and they're what Vista SHOULD have been. This is similar to the addage that even-numbered Star Trek films don't suck.

If that is so then I will temporarily stop hating them. I have been fighting Vista since it was forced on an unsuspecting public. XP was the first and only Windows version I have liked. If Win 7 is as good as you say, I may not replace my pos Vista-net-cruiser with a Mac.

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RE: Google declares war on Microsoft! - 7/12/2009 8:36:55 PM

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Yet, all Microsoft has done has written some annoying, quirky, and sometimes frustratingly mediocre software and come up with an ingenious business plan or two to make their products nigh impossible to replace in business and government IT circles.

And established worldwide workable protocols that appear to appease more than a few hundred thousand kernel API's.

I, for one, am ok with Microsoft.

(Sue me....I like 'em.).

Flame on.

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