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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

This bill will especially hurt the manufacturing companies in the Midwest. The will be paying penalties ( taxes ) to other States...

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

3M has been selling off their carbon credits for years. They reconfigured their plants to be less wasteful and instead of paying the taxes, they make money off of companies that won't fix problems.
Paper mills in Maine have attempted to sue environmentalists that want them to stop polluting and been slapped down sharply because they don't want to improve their style of operating even when given a clear step by step way to save money and do better by their communities.

Companies never choose to change until forced to.

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The Climate Change Climate Change

The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.

Steve Fielding recently asked the Obama administration to reassure him on the science of man-made global warming. When the administration proved unhelpful, Mr. Fielding decided to vote against climate-change legislation.

If you haven't heard of this politician, it's because he's a member of the Australian Senate. As the U.S. House of Representatives prepares to pass a climate-change bill, the Australian Parliament is preparing to kill its own country's carbon-emissions scheme. Why? A growing number of Australian politicians, scientists and citizens once again doubt the science of human-caused global warming.

Among the many reasons President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority are so intent on quickly jamming a cap-and-trade system through Congress is because the global warming tide is again shifting. It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as "deniers." The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.

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(Full op-ed article here).

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

That's an opinion piece.  An article from the news side of the WSJ would be more believable.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

It's funny how the polluters claim there are lots of skeptics but when you look all you find are guys on their payroll and nothing in any peer reviewed publications. In the scientific arena the question is settled, the Earth is warming due to anthrogenic causes.

Cap and trade will not cost anyone any extra money unless they have consciously chosen to not keep up with pollution control technology. The companies that have will actually make money, by trading their carbon credits. The feds won't get that money. the efficient clean businesses that have carbon credits to trade will get the money.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If the science is settled why did Obama insist on ramming this bill through the House at 3:00 in the morning, without giving anyone in Congress a chance to even read it.

That isn't exactly a vote of confidence for the "science" behind this legislation, quite the opposite - that's a sure sign of desperation.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Since when has Congress been governed by science?

Anyway it wasn't voted on at 3AM, the vote was finished at 7:17PM and was only that late due to GOP stalling tactics.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24138.html
http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/27/an-inconvenient-vote/

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ORIGINAL: sophia37

I want cap and trade if the credits are bought and sold on the commodities market. There is that available right now. So if the polluters have to buy credits, let them instead of simply paying the government a fee on how much they are over, buy credits from forest landowners who will benefit from this. Lets spread some of the wealth around how bout.  With 187 acres of forest land in my family, I'm Green. But will I be rewarded for it? As a tax payer, I wouldnt mind a way to make a few bucks off this grand idea. 

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Your family has 187 acres all to itself?

That's WAYYYY too much for just one family!!!

So c'mon - spread the wealth around...

(Or at least, be careful what you ask for).

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ORIGINAL: sophia37

I want cap and trade if the credits are bought and sold on the commodities market. There is that available right now. So if the polluters have to buy credits, let them instead of simply paying the government a fee on how much they are over, buy credits from forest landowners who will benefit from this. Lets spread some of the wealth around how bout.  With 187 acres of forest land in my family, I'm Green. But will I be rewarded for it? As a tax payer, I wouldnt mind a way to make a few bucks off this grand idea.