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RE: obedience,and to be fair? - 6/23/2009 7:56:55 PM

sweetsub1957

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Obedience is an act of faith in the wisdom of the person who gave the order. It is a statement of love in action. I think that the natural understanding and grace to simply obey comes with time and with the continued experience of needs met, desires granted, and love returned in the relationship.

Fairness often has little to do with it. Life itself, as a whole is not fair. But the act of belief in and living the faith of the belief through life can transform it into a wonderful adventure.

Beautiful.

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RE: obedience,and to be fair? - 6/23/2009 7:59:11 PM

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How would you describe obedience,and,
how you describe to be fair
what do you think it contains,or not,
and can you allow yourself as a sub or slave,
to demand fairness?
and how far does your obedience goes?

Obedience is obviously obeying and doing what is asked or expected of you. Doesnt necessarily mean without question. To me fair is 50/50 and I try to be fair in everything I do...who I deal with and try to avoid an uneven outcome or situation. However, I tend to say "hey...that's not fair" to which I get a response of "what does fairness have to do with anything". At first I just dropped my jaw...until it clicked that he would do what he wants to do when he wants to whether I want to or not (within reason).
How can one demand fairness?? esp in a relationships that tend to have one person wielding the whip and the other "taking it" as much or as little as the whip holder feels?
I don't see how I could demand fairness, simply because I trust him and know his nature/personality and know that he'd never be unruly or dangerously evil towards me.
My obedience and everything goes as far as there is mutual respect and everyone's needs in the relationship are being met

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RE: obedience,and to be fair? - 6/23/2009 8:10:45 PM

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(smile) Thank you.

In theory I am a switch, but in practice I can submit to no human.

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RE: obedience,and to be fair? - 6/24/2009 2:25:08 AM

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To answer this from a dominant perspective.

Obedience is him aligning himself to me and my wishes.

Fairness is him being sub as he promised and me being Dom as I also promised.

His obedience goes as far as I want it to go, no more and no less.

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RE: obedience,and to be fair? - 6/24/2009 6:40:01 AM

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Just a few thoughts, certainly not all-inclusive.
A- Obedience: Do what you're told, when you're told, with a pleasant demeanor.
B- Fairness: A dom's ability to act with the wisdom of recognizing the difference between willful disobedience and mistakes.
C- Demand whatever you like- but don't be surprised if the unintended consequences are less than pleasant.
D- Obedience goes very far- everywhere, in fact (standard disclaimers apply). It's odd to me how subs who can perform like a trained seal when the dom has a flogger in their hand lose sight of (A) in day to day life.
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