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Kennedy Bill - 6/5/2009 11:53:16 PM

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090606/ap_on_go_co/us_health_overhaul

The bit that stands out to me is this:

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The bill would provide subsidies to help poor people pay for care, guarantee patients the right to select any doctor they want and require everyone to purchase insurance, with exceptions for those who can't afford to.

Um.. hello? I cant even pay all my bills each month (I'd be a hit at the circus if I could juggle physical things as well as I juggle bill payments.which isnt all that well...).

Now, maybe I'm reading the article wrong.. could be... I'm not exactly brilliant when it comes to political issues.. but that bolded statement really rubbed me the wrong way/....

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RE: Kennedy Bill - 6/6/2009 12:09:30 AM

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I am not so sure that a means test to access public assitance is such a bad thing

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RE: Kennedy Bill - 6/6/2009 1:04:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090606/ap_on_go_co/us_health_overhaul

The bit that stands out to me is this:
quote:

The bill would provide subsidies to help poor people pay for care, guarantee patients the right to select any doctor they want and require everyone to purchase insurance, with exceptions for those who can't afford to.

Um.. hello? I cant even pay all my bills each month (I'd be a hit at the circus if I could juggle physical things as well as I juggle bill payments.which isnt all that well...).

Now, maybe I'm reading the article wrong.. could be... I'm not exactly brilliant when it comes to political issues.. but that bolded statement really rubbed me the wrong way/....

I would guess that the phrase "with exceptions for those who can't afford to", is meant to qualify the phrase "require everyone to purchase insurance." For example, there may be an exception granting insurance coverage free of charge to old people like me who have been impoverished by medical bills after our insurance company ran away. By the same token there may be an exception granting insurance coverage free of charge to youngsters like you who have been stolen blind over the last eight years. We will both have to wait and see.

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RE: Kennedy Bill - 6/6/2009 4:36:51 AM

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Insurers would be supposed to offer a basic level of care and would be required to cover all comers, without turning people away because of pre-existing conditions or other reasons. Insurance companies' profits would be limited, and private companies would have to compete with a new public "affordable access" plan that would for the first time offer government-sponsored health care to Americans not eligible for Medicare, Medicaid or other programs.

I am curious to see how this pans out with the pre-existing condition concept. SOOO many people don't have health insurance not because they can't afford it (hell they can't afford NOT to have it) because of pre-existing conditions that insurance companies screw people over or make them pay such a high rate they don't get it and wait and see.

I am curious as to what they will deem can't afford it. Will it be your income or the bills you already have to pay that are considered without bias.

This i thought was funny ---"Private insurers fear such a construct would drive them out of business"
Umm isn't that sorta the PLAN, that they would eventually be available as pretty much extra insurance instead of mainstream insurance? To me, they did this to themselves and maybe if they start seeing what the american people are SAYING --- and start making changes of their own (working with hospitals and doctors to help lower the costs instead of jacking it up all the time this could turn out different for them. But yeah, i presume nationalized health care eventually means there will no longer be a need for private health insurance unless you want it.

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RE: Kennedy Bill - 6/6/2009 6:06:06 AM

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Such a system is already in place in Massachusetts. So far, seems to work.

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RE: Kennedy Bill - 6/6/2009 10:33:49 PM

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This i thought was funny ---"Private insurers fear such a construct would drive them out of business"
Umm isn't that sorta the PLAN, that they would eventually be available as pretty much extra insurance instead of mainstream insurance?

I got three words.

Good.

Fucking.

Riddance.

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RE: Kennedy Bill - 6/7/2009 6:00:07 AM

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It will work something like this. Asshats who make too much money to not do the jobs they were elected to do will decide that all of us will have to pay insurance based on who they think can afford it rather than who can afford it. Those whose jobs were given away by these self serving bastards and are trying to keep what they have on a salary of half of what they once had will now be deemed well off enough to purchase insurance that is guaranteed to be overpriced. Those who are in this country illegally, are milking the system or who are serving in congress will be exempt.

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