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ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly

I'm not sure..but I think the english soccerfans are notorious...I'm not a big soccer fan..don't know shit about soccer but I enjoy watching the finals in the championships.
When I hear of a fight after a soccer game it's usually always the english fans.

Someones going to do this and it might as well be me lol

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We ought to give pause in the discussion to the man murdered over the weekend in Northern Ireland following the end of the Scottish football season and this year's result of the ongoing feud between Glasgow teams Rangers and Celtic.

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This is very serious stuff - not daft lads out for a fight but a symptom of violent sectarianism alive and well.

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Given the problems associated with football, both at home and abroad, personally, I would be happy if matches  were banned, as the rest of us do not need to be associated with a minority who marr our nationality abroad. If people cannot behave themselves in a civilised society, remove the catalyst, football is not the be all and end all of life, it is just a game, if it is the cause of antisocial behaviour, like alcohol and binge drinking, regulate it.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Ice hockey tends to get rather rabid fans also. But in winter we cool off outside faster.
You do know the old joke about the man who went to a fight one night and a hockey game broke out?

Years ago I had season tickets to the NY Rangers. What I found is that I wound up being afraid to attend games against their big rival, the Islanders. The two teams were maybe 30 miles apart and tempers raged. I was sure one night that the entire subway car of drunk fans were going to incite a riot. After that, I refused to go to the grudge matches, too damned dangerous.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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Given the problems associated with football, both at home and abroad, personally, I would be happy if matches  were banned, as the rest of us do not need to be associated with a minority who marr our nationality abroad. If people cannot behave themselves in a civilised society, remove the catalyst, football is not the be all and end all of life, it is just a game, if it is the cause of antisocial behaviour, like alcohol and binge drinking, regulate it.

There have been attempts to control the amount of violence that can occur at football matches. Take my home team Bradford City for example, feeder pubs are used to try and keep all fans both home and away in known places instead of letting them wander around.
A pub right by the ground is generally used for the home fans and a pub i used to work in which is right by the train and coach station was generally used for the away fans. Police escorts are then used to feed them to Valley parade, the stadium.
It tends to work before the match but then controlling them after and feeding them back to the train station becomes a bit of a problem. The police are then trying to contend with thousands of fans piling out of the stadium and this is usually when the trouble kicks off.
As far as i know they have tried staggered release, ie letting the away fans out to make their way back to coaches and trains and then letting the home fans out some time later. This doesn't work either though as the serious 'firms' have already arranged places to meet and battle.
There is also in place a banning system where anyone caught commiting a violent offence whilst at football can recieve a ban from attending matches and being within so many miles of the ground, city centre where the match will take place. As you can imagine this is fraught with problems too and very rarely works.
 
In my opinion you could ban football but the 'firms' will just find another sport to link to or another reason to fight. For example Bradford fans will battle against Leeds fans just because they are from different places. Plus whilst i'm not into football myself really, why should the fans who are only their to support their team and have fun suffer for the sake of the 'firms' who cause trouble.

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Well, that never stopped the powers that be, take alcohol for example, of all the responsible drinkers out there, it is a minority that cause problems, yet the cost of alcohol has risen to supposedly deter binge drinkers.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Football doth not a hooligan make - merely it provideth his medium.

We ought to give pause in the discussion to the man murdered over the weekend in Northern Ireland following the end of the Scottish football season and this year's result of the ongoing feud between Glasgow teams Rangers and Celtic.

Rangers is taken to be the Protestant team loyal to the Crown. Celtic is taken to be the Catholic team associated with Irish Republicanism. Both teams are followed by those in Northern Ireland depending on their particular backgrounds and sympathies. This is very serious stuff - not daft lads out for a fight but a symptom of violent sectarianism alive and well.

The victim was a Catholic, beaten to death by a gang of Rangers' supporters who had crossed the town of Coleraine to find Catholics, whilst this same gang also put others in hospital and even beat the victim's wife who had tried to intervene.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

There have been attempts to control the amount of violence that can occur at football matches. Take my home team Bradford City for example, feeder pubs are used to try and keep all fans both home and away in known places instead of letting them wander around.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Do they sell beer at the stadiums? Because there have been experiments here of banning alcohol sold at the games. The owners hate it because profits plummet, but the point gets put across immediately and people usually start behaving the next time. Something drastic like no sales at the stadium nor within ten miles might be a sufficient wake up call for most people.