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Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:04:56 PM   
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John Brown Jr. | Navajo Code Talker, 88 John Brown Jr., 88, a Navajo Code Talker who was part of the original group recruited to develop what became an unbreakable code that confounded the Japanese during World War II, died Wednesday in Crystal, N.M. Several hundred Navajos served as Code Talkers during the war, but a group of 29 that included Mr. Brown developed the code based on their native language. Their role in the war was not declassified until 1968. Mr. Brown received the Congressional Gold Medal in 2001 along with other members of the original 29 Code Talkers. A handful are still alive.


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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:18:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Navajo Code Talkers provided a unique and vitally important service to the Allies that has not been fully appreciated.  They are and were heroes for us all. 

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:20:42 PM   
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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:27:46 PM   
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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:30:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I worked with some Dine (Navajos) when I went to college.  After a few years I have picked up maybe a half dozen words of Dine.  The Mormons have spent decades trying to get it into a written language, and they've only done 2/3 of it.  It's a tough language.


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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:33:09 PM   
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http://www.philly.com/philly/obituaries/20090522_John_Brown_Jr_____Navajo_Code_Talker__88.html


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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:39:09 PM   
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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:45:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I cant help but admire the Code Talkers.

After the US gov't so totally screwed the Native Americans for them to be willing to do this just stuns me.  I guess I'm not as ...forgiving? ... as that.


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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 12:56:25 PM   
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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 1:00:02 PM   
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Windtalkers (2002)

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 1:26:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rule beat me to it....I was gonna say that if you have never seen the movie Wind Talkers it's a must see for this topic. It chronicles their effort in WWII. Very dramatic and very well done.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 2:06:46 PM   
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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 2:20:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks GreedyTop for posting this. Yes excellent movie, try to watch it.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 3:12:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The movie is a good one and I would think would be on somewhere this weekend... I wonder how to find out.. my cable company doesn't have a guide that works well in trying to find something that isn't currently on.  But I would bet money it is on somewhere.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 4:29:18 PM   
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.......without taking anything away from the Navajo, they're not the only people who've used their obscure language to aid in military communications. Us Welsh have done it too.........iechyd dda pawb :)

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 4:45:17 PM   
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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 5:33:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

The movie is a good one and I would think would be on somewhere this weekend... I wonder how to find out.. my cable company doesn't have a guide that works well in trying to find something that isn't currently on.  But I would bet money it is on somewhere.


the only listing (via IMDB) shows it being aired at 12:30pm May, 29th on Bravo

otherwise...just rent it at the video store....many still have it in the older movie section

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 5:35:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I'd say Bore Da, Phil.. but its the wrong time... LOL
Oops.. how about Nos Da?

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..heh,  popeth yn iawn........a da iawn i Chi.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 5:57:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was unaware that anyone had actually amassed that much of it in written form.  Navajo is a beautiful language, and one that I wish I knew more of.  I do have a little bit of a grasp on it, and thankfully an 'in' as it were, to learning more.  B's family is from the Kiowa tribe, and from all I've been able to glean, their language is about an 85% match to Navajo.  Of course such dialectual differences can make the difference between night and day, but nothing that can't be worked around.

Unfortunately both language are all but dead now, as are many other Native languages, which is (at least to me) a shame.  I keep telling B. that he needs to get with his family and work on keeping the language alive.  Possibly contact the Univ. here or somewhere, and their language department, and see about getting it professionally studied and preserved.

Languages, no matter which ones, are the most powerful tools, the most powerful weapons for good (and alas evil) that we as a species have.

Sorry about the bit of a tangent there... just something I'm very passionate about.  I learned to love languages and their structures and forms and histories long ago, which is part of what lead me to my degrees in Sociology and Anthropology...  which is why I'm a chef (come on, seriously, good luck finding a good job with those degrees). ;)


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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 6:28:43 PM   
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