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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 6:37:24 PM

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I'd say Bore Da, Phil.. but its the wrong time... LOL
Oops.. how about Nos Da?

*snuggles* hope you and your Lady are well?

..heh, popeth yn iawn........a da iawn i Chi.

Noswaith dda is probably best.....lol

*hopeless*

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/23/2009 9:40:37 PM

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I was unaware that anyone had actually amassed that much of it in written form. Navajo is a beautiful language, and one that I wish I knew more of. I do have a little bit of a grasp on it, and thankfully an 'in' as it were, to learning more. B's family is from the Kiowa tribe, and from all I've been able to glean, their language is about an 85% match to Navajo. Of course such dialectual differences can make the difference between night and day, but nothing that can't be worked around.

Unfortunately both language are all but dead now, as are many other Native languages, which is (at least to me) a shame. I keep telling B. that he needs to get with his family and work on keeping the language alive. Possibly contact the Univ. here or somewhere, and their language department, and see about getting it professionally studied and preserved.

Languages, no matter which ones, are the most powerful tools, the most powerful weapons for good (and alas evil) that we as a species have.

Sorry about the bit of a tangent there... just something I'm very passionate about. I learned to love languages and their structures and forms and histories long ago, which is part of what lead me to my degrees in Sociology and Anthropology... which is why I'm a chef (come on, seriously, good luck finding a good job with those degrees). ;)

Here ya go, BK... a course in Navajo from my alma mater, UNM: http://www.gallup.unm.edu/20090129joekee.php

More: http://www.unm.edu/~market/cgi-bin/archives/003031.html

Another plug for UNM... Tony Hillerman, the author of the Joe Leaphorn/Jim Chee murder mysteries, which drew upon the Navajo culture, used to be a Journalism professor at UNM.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 12:17:26 AM

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B's family is from the Kiowa tribe, and from all I've been able to glean, their language is about an 85% match to Navajo.

Unfortunately both language are all but dead now, as are many other Native languages, which is (at least to me) a shame.

As far as I know, the Kiowa language is Siouan, while the Navajo language is Athabascan - 2 very different language types.
Also, I can't speak for the Kiowa language, but the Navajo language is very much alive and well. There are signs on the reservation in Navajo, and it is widely spoken even among young people. (I dated a Navajo for 5 years). I am from the Omaha tribe, and like many other small tribes, our language is dying, but the Navajos are a very large tribe and their language remains intact and widely used. I took a Navajo class once and it was extremely difficult as it used the eastern agency dialect. My girlfriend couldn't help me at all as she spoke the western agency dialect.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 4:19:47 AM

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awesome movie, i own it and watched again after reading this thread.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 7:58:07 AM

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I'd say Bore Da, Phil.. but its the wrong time... LOL
Oops.. how about Nos Da?

*snuggles* hope you and your Lady are well?

..heh, popeth yn iawn........a da iawn i Chi.

Noswaith dda is probably best.....lol

*hopeless*

...never....

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 8:36:32 AM

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I see alot of these guys at the VA hospital, and others that have served. There are unique plaques and other tributes with their names and actions.

I salue all that have served and are serving, without them there is no FREEDOM for US.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 8:50:13 AM

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Here ya go, BK... a course in Navajo from my alma mater, UNM: http://www.gallup.unm.edu/20090129joekee.php

More: http://www.unm.edu/~market/cgi-bin/archives/003031.html

Another plug for UNM... Tony Hillerman, the author of the Joe Leaphorn/Jim Chee murder mysteries, which drew upon the Navajo culture, used to be a Journalism professor at UNM.

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Tony Hillerman Died last month.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 9:07:44 AM

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The Navajo Code Talkers provided a unique and vitally important service to the Allies that has not been fully appreciated. They are and were heroes for us all.

Before everyone started dying off I listened to Marines reminisce about island warfare. The Navajo always came up. The Navajo were certainly appreciated by the Marines on the islands.

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 4:24:01 PM

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Geez, where's the fucking moderator when you need them?

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 5:39:59 PM

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busy modspanking me....

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RE: Code Talkers - 5/24/2009 5:52:23 PM

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Clearly we need a mod for the mods.

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