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skills like this... - 4/7/2009 12:11:50 PM   
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Haha anyone else see that movie? Hysterical.

Anyway, my partner has asked me to improve my blow job skills. The request came as a bit of a surprise as I thought I was doing pretty well but, "there is always room to improve."

It would be inappropriate to ask most of my friends "so, when you suck cock, what really works well for you?" I'm hoping you all can help me on that front.

Guys, what really feels good to you? What do you wish your partner could do better.

Girls (or guys again), what does your partner really like? How do you deal with pesky issues such as the gag reflex or muscle ache in the jaw?

Thanks in advance for your help!
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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 12:35:27 PM   
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Every man I've been with likes something different.

There is no answer we can really give you. Best sorce of information is ask the one your blowing.

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 12:58:48 PM   
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http://www.whitelotuseast.com/LingamMassage.htm

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 1:01:57 PM   
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Yeah you have to ask what they want, good advice is to follow the moans, try different things and see which gets the best response. The best blow jobs to my mind are the ones you really get into.

Jaw ache is easy, be diverse a blow job isnt simply about sucking up and down over and over again thats just dull, you lick you kiss you massage you change the speed and depth etc, it should be sensual and fun not a race to the finish.

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 1:02:03 PM   
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Of course. And I do ask him. But he requested that I survey others for novel ideas and and I am troubleshooting things such as sore jaw, gag reflex, etc.

Jaw ache really has challenged me and appreciate your advice.

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 1:25:38 PM   
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I know what my guys like, but how would I know what your guy likes?
I suggest you have him get naked in a comfy position.  You wear a white lab coat and glasses.  Have a clipboard and checklist handy.  Try different things and have him rate it on a 1 to 10 scale.  Mark it on the list.
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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 1:29:14 PM   
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Well one thing that I've never had a complaint on is I learned to actually suck with my throat muscles. and no i don't mean a swallowing action.  the pressure/massage action starts at my lips and travels all the way down as long as he is then can be reversed all teh way back up. Something i developed when learning to deep throat.

Not sure if that makes any sense but it makes my guys eyes cross and he loses his breath so it must be ok hehe

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 1:59:24 PM   
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Every man I've been with likes something different.

There is no answer we can really give you. Best sorce of information is ask the one your blowing.


I know what my dog likes, but I don't know what your dog likes. I bet they both like steak, and dislike bananas. (Funny enough, my athletic dog loves bananas...)

Firstly, yes, some of my advice might clash terribly with your man, but I doubt it.

Ascertain how spoiled he is. If he is accustomed to some fast paced deep throating, then you have a lot more work to do.
Ascertain your goal. Do you want him to get off or get it up for other play? How long do you want this to go? There's no shame in saying (to yourself) "ugh, I just want him to stop humping my leg so I can go to sleep." Which is a different goal than "I want to see how long I can keep him hard" or "how big of a load I can get".

Unless told otherwise, I assume the objective is 70% success/30% style. For a connoisseur, licking and kissing is a cop out. Use them to get him up, but little else. Tiny kisses and coy looks do nothing for pleasure. Women tell women that depth doesn't matter and that "all the pleasure is in the tip." It's not true. Depth matters. (Size always matters). That doesn't mean you need to be able to shove a sausage chain down your throat, though. Put your two fists in front of your mouth, like blowing a horn. If that whole column of flesh (both palms and the mouth) is soaked with spit, it's the sensation of deepthroating without having anything past your tongue.

Which brings me to my next point, wetness. When you're sucking cock, you're not providing fellatio. You're using your mouth-hole as a sex toy, ya dig? (I'm not saying there isn't a time for fellatio, but its the difference of when you want to fuck and when you want to make love.) Ladies don't suck cock. Hookers do. Act like a hooker. Don't be bashful about any of the process. This includes spitting. For me, the hottest part of a blowjob is when a woman spits a huge wad of saliva on me as if to say "Lets get it on!" (Confirm with your man about wetness. I hear tell some sissy-nancy-boys like to keep things dry and neat.)

The fellas. Don't forget about the balls. It would be like a guy going down on you and ignoring your clit. (Ok, not a perfect metaphor, and not anatomically counterparts, but you get the idea.) They're very sensitive, and rarely get any attention. Being warm, wet, and rubbed feels great. Manage a one hand cupping massage, and it's ecstasy. This also applies to the anus, but get confirmation on that.

When your mouth is not working, it should be idling. When you come up for breath, take a jaw-relaxing break, etc., continue the emotion. Breath harder than you need to. Spit out any excess saliva. Moan in pleasure. Fall back on your ass with a crazed sex hungry look in your eyes while you stare at his cock with a face that screams "I'm not leaving until you cum in my mouth, mister!" as per my fantasy. O.o Got carried away... ummm

Right. When you're not in the act, be acting. This brings me to my next, and most powerful piece of advice... Ask. Ask to do it. Any man who does not like being offered a blowjob is not trustworthy. Clearly, he has screws loose. If you know mouthsex is imminent, ask to do it. (Unless this clashes with your power exchange dynamic... But honestly, the power of a woman offering would probably transcend even 100% TPE.)

So, in short:

1) Mimic depth by putting a fist in front of your mouth. (grip firmly on the upstroke, softly on the downstroke)
2) Be wet. Comedian Ralphie May puts it best: "The barometer for how good a blowjob is, is how wet the balls are." Segue...
3) The balls/ass. Don't ignore them. You can get face fucked for hours without him getting off, but if you were rubbing the balls... 6 minutes tops. 12 if he did porn in his younger years.
4) The panache. Reckless courage about the act. Show no shame, show no fear. Act as if you wanted this more than diamonds.

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 2:02:41 PM   
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quote:

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For me, the hottest part of a blowjob is when a woman spits a huge wad of saliva on me as if to say "Lets get it on!" (Confirm with your man about wetness. I hear tell some sissy-nancy-boys like to keep things dry and neat.)



Can I get an eww. I dont know about the sissy nancy boys but im not sure id want to suck sweet fa after coughing up a phlem ball on it

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 2:10:58 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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For me, the hottest part of a blowjob is when a woman spits a huge wad of saliva on me as if to say "Lets get it on!" (Confirm with your man about wetness. I hear tell some sissy-nancy-boys like to keep things dry and neat.)



Can I get an eww. I dont know about the sissy nancy boys but im not sure id want to suck sweet fa after coughing up a phlem ball on it


Providing oral sex is an act of giving, inclusive of giving into others likes. I slapped on multiple disclaimers, along with the passive universal knowledge of taking advice with salt. Also... I said saliva, not phlegm, for a reason .

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 2:33:11 PM   
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Ahh I dont agree that oral sex is the act of giving, I think good oral sex can be a turn on to both people, I hate when its seen as a job (ironic with the name)

Sorry I had an image in my head when I read it, it wasnt pretty :P

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 3:21:42 PM   
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Okay, HeavansKeeper, I think that may be the best missive about blow jobs I have ever seen in print!  :> 
I have to say, I'm with colouredin on the whole spitting on thing and the small empirical sample I have to draw from hasn't included any who thought that behavior hot and several who expressed revulsion at the idea.  When I've seen it done in porn, it always strikes me as rather uncouth and even disrespectful. 
I can't really add anything, from men I've spoken with or known in the sense as to have the empirical experience, to your 4 details of focus at the end. 
One thing that warrants saying, from my perspective, at least, is in answer to the query about jaw fatigue.  I know that for folks whose jaws are just fine, it can be an issue.  My jaw is less than fine (tmj) and a couple of recommendations I would make are:
1)You can use your hand(s) to grip your chin and keep your mouth open longer (Or, if your partner really understands your physiology well, they could but I'd caution about hyper-extending the joint as you really don't want jaw problems if you don't already have them), 2)Take a break if you need to.  I know, I know, some might sulk but, really, feeling like you are having the lowerportion of your face ripped off, even if you're experiencing pleasure is not fun and there really is a fatigue threshold.  Some men like the back of the head grab or the fist full of hair control.  That's great and actually very hot, imo, but I come with the disclaimer of, "If I pull back, let me, seriously".  I'd imagine it'd really suck (And not in the good way we're discussing) to get chomped. 
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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 3:25:35 PM   
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quote:

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Girls (or guys again), what does your partner really like? How do you deal with pesky issues such as the gag reflex or muscle ache in the jaw?

Thanks in advance for your help!
kitty


My partner would hate for me to avoid gagging! but then he enjoys mouth raping me and watching my eyes water.
He loves me spitting on his cock, slavering during the act and ball sucking him (Yep I'm with HK on this one and I can't think why this would be revolting to someone your sharing your bodily fluids with!)
. Try getting both his balls into your mouth. Its not as easy as it sounds but with time and practice its well worth the persistence. It also depends on the shape of his scrotum. Also lick, suck and kiss the skin either side of his scrotum as this seems to be a very sensitive spot.

Maria

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 4:49:20 PM   
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One guy used to tell me that you're not doing it right until you need to stop and blow your nose because your sinuses are open and draining like crazy, lol.   

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 5:32:09 PM   
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quote:

"ugh, I just want him to stop humping my leg so I can go to sleep."


OMG, I laughed and laughed when I read this! I can always tell when Master is horny while He's sleeping because He does that! Sometimes waking momentarily to grab me every ten minutes. Needless to say it makes falling asleep very difficult! Until He either just takes me in His sleep, (yes, He frequently doms me in His sleep!) or I say to myself, that if I'm going to get to sleep I'd better take care of it! LMAO

Onto the subject at hand, Master likes it when I pull His balls down as I go up. He also likes a lot of hard squeezing there (some men might not), but He definitely wants a lot of attention to His balls- sucking, licking, squeezing, sometimes I even lightly bite.

Whoever it was said the part about using your throat muscles- that is the coolest thing! However do you do that?

As to the gag reflex, I find it helps to breathe through your nose on the upstroke. Certain positions make deep throating easier than others.

I did once read a good book on the subject... I'm trying to remember the name... something like How to pleasure a man... but I'm not positive. Anyway, I'm sure they are available and might offer some other tips.

It definitely helps if you are really into it and turned on by it. I think the best ones I've given were when I actually came from it myself! (weird... but it's happened several times)

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 6:22:18 PM   
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What I like ( not all at the same time)

- Eagerness, or at least the appearance of eagerness. Push Him down and dive on his cock...
- Little humms. Yummy sounds that show your eagerness. Like, "hmmmm hmmm (that's good cock)"
- Sucking sounds. That kind of smacking noise as he pulls out while you are maintaining suction.
- Taking it deep, at least past the head for goodness sake...
- Gagging is fun, when combined with the appearance of forcing.
- Being forced, and resisting. "No, please no..." try to turn your head away. Having Him hold your head and force Himself into you. Same when its time to cum in your mouth. Perhaps with another girl holding your head as he forces you to take it.
- Holding His balls gently while you do it.
- The ultimate, I have only seen on film: taking it so deep you can lick his balls a little... hmmmm
- Pucking? Seems some pros do it on film. I guess its a turn-on for some. Personally its enough to hear a girl gag and retch a little....guess I am a nice guy lol.



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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 6:42:40 PM   
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Invites all y'all girls wishing to improve your abilities over to my place take a number for ahhhh better service.

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 7:10:02 PM   
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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 7:14:58 PM   
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quote:

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Haha anyone else see that movie? Hysterical.

Anyway, my partner has asked me to improve my blow job skills. The request came as a bit of a surprise as I thought I was doing pretty well but, "there is always room to improve."

It would be inappropriate to ask most of my friends "so, when you suck cock, what really works well for you?" I'm hoping you all can help me on that front.

Guys, what really feels good to you? What do you wish your partner could do better.

Girls (or guys again), what does your partner really like? How do you deal with pesky issues such as the gag reflex or muscle ache in the jaw?

Thanks in advance for your help!
kitty


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Yeah you have to ask what they want, good advice is to follow the moans, try different things and see which gets the best response. The best blow jobs to my mind are the ones you really get into.

Jaw ache is easy, be diverse a blow job isnt simply about sucking up and down over and over again thats just dull, you lick you kiss you massage you change the speed and depth etc, it should be sensual and fun not a race to the finish.


Exactly.  And i have open-minded girlfriends so, yes, i do ask them what works well for them.  And i get answers!  lol  And as far as the gag reflex goes, well, Sir has me practicing deep-throat on a dildo for an hour 3 times a day, and i will tell you, that gag reflex is completely gone now, it took only three days.....no more choking or gagging.  There is nothing like a lot of practice to make it go away.  i also listen to the moans and watch for His movements for feedback.  i always get into it and diversify, so i never get jaw ache and consequently can take a lot of time at it.  So maybe ask what He wants and practice in-between times?

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RE: skills like this... - 4/7/2009 11:53:21 PM   
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Relaxation exercises can help if you tend to store tension in your jaws.

Alas, I can do very little, which is a pity as I like to do all sorts of things during 'nilla sex. And I think it's also useful for tormenting a bound sub. (No one says I have to get him off....) But I've gotten socked in the jaw once too often through the course of my life to have it be a real option for me.

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