Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Can anyone explain this to me?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Can anyone explain this to me? Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/5/2009 5:00:51 PM   
MasterGrim


Posts: 45
Joined: 8/20/2004
Status: offline
DesFIP

I at no point mentioned children... I said S.O.'s (Girlfriends/Wives)
And for this discussion "skimpies" would be short shorts, belly shirts, etc... Nothing about being undressed... just to clear it up...

Please!!! Give people SOME credit..

Defense Rests

(in reply to DesFIP)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/5/2009 5:09:14 PM   
MasterGrim


Posts: 45
Joined: 8/20/2004
Status: offline
I am sorry if my words offended you...

It is the closed minded people to which I was refering to..

I agree that the government SHOULD stay OUT of peoples personal lives...
What consenting adults do behind their closed doors is no ones business but theirs.

Sadly, I grew up in an air of "do as I say not as I do" which may color my opinions. (this is something I am trying to correct)
I honestly believe "to each their own"

(in reply to Raiikun)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/5/2009 5:10:53 PM   
MasterGrim


Posts: 45
Joined: 8/20/2004
Status: offline
LOGO is one of O/our favorite channels too.


(in reply to Mercnbeth)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/5/2009 5:14:41 PM   
MasterGrim


Posts: 45
Joined: 8/20/2004
Status: offline
Thank you so much for posting to this thread.

I wish to pay my respects to you for your clarity, courage, and willingness to help educate.

Once again, Thank you

(in reply to stella41b)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/6/2009 6:32:07 AM   
DesFIP


Posts: 25191
Joined: 11/25/2007
From: Apple County NY
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterGrim

DesFIP

I at no point mentioned children... I said S.O.'s (Girlfriends/Wives)
And for this discussion "skimpies" would be short shorts, belly shirts, etc... Nothing about being undressed... just to clear it up...

Please!!! Give people SOME credit..

Defense Rests



And don't those wives next door have offspring? Female offspring who they are trying to raise with healthy self images, not buying into tv/media images where women are only desirable for their bodies? Male offspring, who they want to see women as people, not just as objects?

You don't get it.

_____________________________

Slave to laundry

Cynical and proud of it!


(in reply to MasterGrim)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/6/2009 10:14:20 PM   
MasterFireMaam


Posts: 5587
Joined: 3/1/2006
From: Charleston, WV
Status: offline
Gender and sex are different. Gender is psychological and sex is physical. Some people are of one gender and the opposite sex. They have their physical bodies altered to make who they really are. So, the person you referenced is indeed a lesbian. She is female in gender, and now in sex, and is sexually attracted to women.

Master Fire


_____________________________

The power of who we are can be intoxicating. The power of who we could be is humbling.
-----
Ms Relationship Books
-----
BDSM How-To Books

(in reply to MasterGrim)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/7/2009 8:17:32 AM   
pahunkboy


Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

How can a person gender male at birth who has had an operation to be reassigned as a gender female be considered a lesbian?


To understand first you have to agree or at least appreciate that sexual preference and biological gender are independent of each other. A person's biological gender is controlled by physical factors out of their control at birth. A persons sexuality does not have a requirement of meeting the expectations of becoming socially 'normal' based upon the visual gender characteristics.

Without getting into the debate of whether homosexuality is nature versus nurture; your question can be answered by saying a man can love a woman but desire the physical interaction of that love be taken in the form of a lesbian relationship better enjoyed as a woman. Basically, they feel they were born as the wrong gender; but as that gender their sexual desires are homosexual. Yeah, I know - it can make your head hurt thinking about it.

We are both big fans of the LOGO Channel. They had a documentary series on this subject where the people who you describe referred to themselves as 'Gender Queer'. Some went through the sex change operation, changing their secondary sexual characteristics to the opposite gender, but coming through the operation they hoped to live their lives as a homosexual; Male to female seeking female sexual partners, female to male seeking male sexual partners. An interesting, and a bit sad result for one person going through the sex change procedure within a long term lesbian relationship, was that her partner had no desire to be with a man. As the initial hormone therapy  was taking affect and her partner was looking more and more a man, she was no longer attracted to her. After the operation, they broke up.

Some don't go as far as getting a sex change operation, but instead simply live as their non birth gender.

You can search the LOGO link I provided and see some of the episode clips.



I wish I could get LOGO.   Altho- often the gay TV is embarrassingly slutty, bitchy, silly -   free speach TV has some good programs on.

(in reply to Mercnbeth)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: Can anyone explain this to me? - 4/7/2009 11:23:00 AM   
Vendaval


Posts: 10297
Joined: 1/15/2005
Status: offline
Thank you, Mercnbeth, for the recommendation on the LOGO Channel.

_____________________________

"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


http://KinkMeet.co.uk

(in reply to Mercnbeth)
Profile   Post #: 28
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2]
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Can anyone explain this to me? Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.125