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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 3:13:09 PM   
DemonKia


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ORIGINAL: Kana

C/mon
You wanna be evil...
It takes time, effort.
You have to lay awake at night, endless hours dreaming of ways to torment.
Dedicate yourself, give it over
Put forth some serious effort
(Remember, Evil isn't for wusses)
You can't do just one nasty thing and call yourself evil
It's not just a state of mind, it's a way of life.

But ya can't cop it from strangers.


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Awesome! Well said . . . . .



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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 3:13:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know why you are giving orders to me and others in this thread, but it's a little odd.  I certainly have no control of what you choose to read, or write, and I wouldn't presume to tell you what to do.

I presume this is the same domme about whom you said that you chose her because of your newness, and that it was a poor choice on your part.  Perhaps you've changed your mind about that relationship in the last 48 hours, or perhaps you feel conflicted about the value of that relationship in your life.

Frankly, setting someone who trusts you up to fail helps create a person who is irresolute, indecisive, and afraid to stand on their own.  If you were the recipient of some of these "evil" acts, that might contribute to the reason you change your tune so much in your posts.  Ultimately, I don't understand why you would be so quick to defend a practice that probably harmed you... unless you are trying to put the make on a domme with a hot pic.


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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 3:22:21 PM   
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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 3:31:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree it was a poor choice on my part, the part of me that was short sighted, and just in it for the fix of being dominated ruthlessly, yes that what I want, I enjoy being set-up to fail when i know its coming. And no where in this thread was it stated the sub/slave had no idea it was on them to fail. Frankly I don't see why people expressing their views when someone was asking for ideas is considered helping. I honestly feel people should keep their views personal, becaus enot everyone sees the world through the same rose colored glasses as everyone else. Some of use enjoy the relentless punishment handed out by Domme's when their subs fail an impossible task others don't trust their Domme to know when enough is enough, some people perfer the world candy coated with simple tasks such as do the dishes or I'll spank you. I prefer being locked six rooms away from the sink and being told to do the dishes while chained to a chair. Makes the world far more interesting. But what blows my sail may sink your boat.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 3:36:15 PM   
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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 4:36:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didnt think the OP was being evil enuff when she said no blood play.  Course evil is in the eye of the beholder.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 4:56:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I enjoy predicament play, which is what I think the OP is getting after here.  Predicament play can be a fun thing to delve into, as long as it is understood (at least afterwards) that what had happened was "play."  I cannot fathom using this as anything else, due to the mental problems that it could cause.

On that note, make a sub hold out their arms parallel to the ground.  Have strings attached to a pulley system that either activates a tens unit (set to an uncomfortable level), or is attached to clover clamps on the nipples.  Eventually the sub will have to drop her arms, and activate the tens unit, or pull on the nipples.  It will force the sub to effectually choose their torment.

Houdini box.

Sensory deprivation, for even more sadistic pleasure, include ear-buds with a recording of you giving them suggestions that they must fantasize about (because they are completely in their mind at this point).


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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/2/2009 5:53:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lameduck, we are being helpful, by pointing out to her that what she is looking for are things that will not be conducive to the success of the relationship. She might have fun that day, but once her shortsightedness has driven the sub away to be with a more competent dominant, then she won't have anyone to play with.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 1:36:25 AM   
RCdc


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ORIGINAL: lameduck13

With all do respect the poster was not asking for your opinions on the matter the poster was asking for examples of what we thought were evil if you don't have any ideas to contribute please don't bother, this isn't a flame thread because we see things differently.


Lameduck, whilst I can understand your negativity to my post, lets get a couple of things out there.
A flame is a personal attack.  A flame highlights a disagreement beyond what I gave.  Setting someone up to fail is completely different to predicament play.  If the OP is into such, then her lack of knowledge screams out and recommending serious mind fucks to someone who has such little experience is cause for concern. 
Thing is, I am not really that concerned with the OP.  It's absolutely obvious she has her mind set and there is nothing anyone can say that will alter it.  That isn't the issue.  The issue is that posts like hers and yours might be great for people who - frankly are the people answering - who have been around long enough to understand that this is a play exercise.  But we, you or she aren't the only ones reading.  Have you read these boards at all?  Have you actually any idea just how naive people can be and are?  That message boards like this are often the first docking point for new people other than chat rooms?  That there is no one single way and that people actually believe that there is?  That an exercise like this is something you can just 'do' without any consequences?
 
I tend to want to be responsible when I post.  There is a far bigger picture that you, me or the OP.  If I post a question, it wouldn't be an open ended one where it makes the point that all s-types are the same and that ideas shouldn't be tailored.  Honestly lameduck, I am all for sharing ideas, but plagerism?  Are you really happy submitting to a person who doesn't have a mind or imagination of their own?  Can you imagine the issues there?  The possible dangers?  So flame?  No... being overly 'redrum' yes and proud to be because I care, but flame... not even a flicker.
 
the.dark.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 1:46:20 AM   
RCdc


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ORIGINAL: lameduck13

I agree it was a poor choice on my part, the part of me that was short sighted, and just in it for the fix of being dominated ruthlessly, yes that what I want, I enjoy being set-up to fail when i know its coming. And no where in this thread was it stated the sub/slave had no idea it was on them to fail. Frankly I don't see why people expressing their views when someone was asking for ideas is considered helping.



lameduck, the issue is that the OP didn't say that the s-type wasn't aware.  But it also never made the point that they were.  It's not always just about the OP, but about those reading and learning silently as well.
 
.disclaimers suck.caveats rock.
 
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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 3:07:47 AM   
IronBear


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Evil like so many other things is relative and needs something to judge it against to see if it is evil or just naughty. Now comes the never ending debate as to what is evil. Most folks and especially those who think for themselves, will define evil according to their standards of such things be it a philosophic scale, legal scale, a religious dogmatic scale or something quite different. Just remember that your evil is someone else's good. Again evil is used in different ways. Something totaly unacceptable by legal and social standards, something with is so radical and extreme and what ever.. Some of you have seen or even worn the slogan: "Yea though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death, I will fear no evil! For I am/was the most evil bastard there!" For some who walked in that place in various combat areas you know and understand the survival technique the motto states. For others who have faced their own hell on earth understand this too.. However in a general context the motto accurately suggests the diversity if evilness and how it can mean so many things.

Thus when asked how evil am I? I respond with: "By what scale do you measure these things"?.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 4:23:48 AM   
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I am all for sharing ideas, but plagiarism?  Are you really happy submitting to a person who doesn't have a mind or imagination of their own? 



Applause

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 4:53:31 AM   
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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 9:45:51 AM   
Jeptha


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ORIGINAL: MasterDarkSadist

I enjoy predicament play, which is what I think the OP is getting after here. Predicament play can be a fun thing to delve into, as long as it is understood (at least afterwards) that what had happened was "play." ...

I think that is a good point.

Faced with an absurd task, the point isn't necessarily to succeed at the task itself, but to put forward an earnest effort, in good faith. Just making a genuine effort is where the success is, therefor; tho, you can delay the reward for that by continuing to play the game of punishing for the absurd task.

Thus; it's a game of punishments in the short run (emphasis on "game") but it is not about setting the sub up to fail in the big picture.

~As long as you've established a framework in which such a "big picture" actually exists.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 10:08:51 AM   
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quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: lameduck13

With all do respect the poster was not asking for your opinions on the matter the poster was asking for examples of what we thought were evil if you don't have any ideas to contribute please don't bother, this isn't a flame thread because we see things differently.


Next time old chap you feel the urge to post something like this please be a good lad and insert a large hypodermic needle into each of your testes and after attaching a tasser lead to each of the two needles, press the trigger. Painful I agree but far less painful in the long run than what you may expect to receive here.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 11:27:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not evil at all. That's my story, and that's what I am going to stick with.

After all, I am a grandmother and I bake amazingly awesome cookies.

What could be less evil than that?!?!?


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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 11:29:00 AM   
Kana


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am not evil at all. That's my story, and that's what I am going to stick with.

After all, I am a grandmother and I bake amazingly awesome cookies.

What could be less evil than that?!?!?



Rule number one: Deny, deny, deny
Rule number two: When in doubt, refer to rule number one.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 11:43:59 AM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		Umm... my sweet grandmother baked, cooked... was great... but she had a switch tree she would send you out to pick your own for punishment.  That was evil!  Didn't take me long to learn... don't get the thin one's!  She was also not fair!  The other bad one's would run and by the time she could catch them she was laughing.  Dumb me stood there and took it becasue it was the right thing to do.  Smart eh?

I love my grandmother, she was the best... but even sweet granny types can be evil damn it!  (I know.. I admit to being one.)

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 5:20:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have something of a policy about how much I will say about play techniques on the message boards.  While I do enjoy discussing ideas and relating experiences, I don't furnish enough information on an open forum that could be potentially harmful.  This is especially true if I don't believe that the person asking the question has the experience level to be competent at the type of play being discussed.  I'm more than happy to discuss technique, provide assistance in forms of play that I'm familiar with, give helpful hints about all kinds of things in private mail, when I know the receiver has the intention of playing responsibly.

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RE: How Evil Are You? - 4/3/2009 7:11:38 PM   
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If you have a lawn, order your sub to cut the grass. One blade at a time, with tweezers, or chopsticks or teeth.


Nicely evil, but what can I do?  I have five acres and I am not into poly.

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