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RE: On being a role model - 4/2/2009 6:52:36 AM

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I have seen some good shows at those off the beaten track venues.

In a recession, manage it right and things could go to your benefit.

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RE: On being a role model - 4/2/2009 7:23:41 PM

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Just a bit of an update. Today was a fabulous day. One of the local news channels came out and did a full story on the civic center, which gave it a HUGE amount of publicity. The reporter did a really nice story on it and on me... kinda embarassed me a little, she made me out like the town hero or something. Shortly after the story aired, the phone started ringing with people wanting to know more about the civic center and some interested in booking shows there. Judging from the reaction of several who made comparisons to the few other venues in this area, seems like I'm well on track to making the civic center the premier venue in this part of Virginia.

On the JK front, seems that several of the band members are also fed up with him, so bringing some collective pressure on him to get his shit together is already in the works. Plus, with the news show tonight, I should have a much broader range of bookings to draw on, which takes away the one serious bit of leverage JK had on me. That'll free up my options in how I deal with him.

Like I said before, I don't always know how things will work out... but somehow, things in my life always do. Personally, I think a big part of it comes from how I live... that reporter did me a favor because I'd done some for her in the past... helped her with stories. Same with neighboring businesses, they've been willing to help me because I've always been there and willing to do what I could to help them. Yeah, I'm still a boy scout at heart... an ya know... that's a good thing.

An maybe that's one of the most important lessons I can teach these young people... that the world isn't always dog eat dog; that helping other people helps you... sometimes when you least expect it... but most need it. Life's funny that way.

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RE: On being a role model - 4/3/2009 7:45:16 PM

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Excellent, sounds like you're doing a great job . ... .

Some additional thoughts:

About JK: adverse consequences should 'logically fit' & they should be relatively brief, so that they're 'doable', but they should escalate (doesn't have to be steeply) . . . . . So, perhaps, one practice session or one week ban on band practice to start, cuz, yeah, getting his bandmates in on his issues makes sense . ..

The additional-uses-of-your-venue thought-problem is an ongoing thing that your staff / loved ones / friends / etc can / should be thinking on, as well . .. . Recruit everyone in thinking of uses, then it's up to you to figure out which ones are potentially lucrative & worth pursuing . . .. . If that makes sense . . . .. The more brains / perspectives cooking on that one, the better . . . .

(Oh, a thought -- there may be film / teevee work going on in your region, & it might be worth contacting your state entity that encourages film production in-state to find out how your facility can become available for use by film productions (most states have such, similar to the gov't entities that encourage tourism) . . .. . )

The promoters have magazines & online sites where they network, so keep looking . . . . . Given your business you should see if the various popular music mags (Blender (?), that kinda thing) will add you to their comp lists, professional courtesy & all that . . .. . (I've also worked in publishing & there's an enormous amount of professional courtesy about sending out review copies & such . . . . )

The other thought is that what you're doing is strongly related to tenacity; as you prove to be a stable consistent venue, the business will build . . . . . .

& the karma you're building up . .. . .. *big smile*

I've got it in my head to follow this thread, but feel free to contact me if it seems appropriate . ..... .

Courage.

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RE: On being a role model - 4/3/2009 11:31:58 PM

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I'd never considered the movie or TV angle, that's something to investigate.

Spoke with the director of the local fine arts center today. Seems they also saw the news report and are now interested in the place as a possible location for some dance classes, craft classes and art shows in the future. Those are exactly some of the uses I had in mind. In part because those are the kinds of things that would go on during the week during the day and thus would help draw people back downtown. That in turn will hopefully help out some of the local businesses and attract new businesses to main street, which is another goal of mine as well as being a goal of the local business association (which I happen to be VP of).

So yeah, actually at this point there are an increasing number of people suggesting ideas which is a great thing. I'm also trying to be careful to both work with others in the town and not step on toes if I can avoid it... the more we all work together, the better of we all are.

A high tide raises all boats... that's getting to be my mantra these days.

I had it out with JK somewhat this evening... I let him know I was angry and disappointed with him over some things he'd done. It got heated and he tried to threaten me with things like not booking any more shows... and found out I was neither going to back down nor blink. By the end of the evening he was considerably more subdued at which point I let up a little. I doubt this is the last we'll butt heads, but its also probably the worst of it. He learned something, I'm more stubborn than he is, and I also employ the golden rule (he who owns the civic center makes the rules...). So now I think its going to be more about providing some guidance and goals... and I think I'm also going to push teamwork more. His band suffers from not much teamwork... too much creative differences... someone else pushing them all to work together might help the band as a whole.

One of these days my life is going to be easy... and I won't have a clue what to do with it. LOL

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