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Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 7:09:22 PM

MzMia

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Okay, I just heard some news I could NOT believe.
So I had to check it out.
Apparently it is true folks, Mexico is trying to threaten the US with tariffs.
Unfuckingbelievable.

Mexico threatented the U.S. with tariffs in a trade dispute, over not allowing Mexican
trucks to transport cargo throughout the U.S.
Evidently, we have had safety concerns and political objections including real minor concerns like
whether the drivers had records, spoke English and were adequately tested for drugs and alcohol.

Now if the White House gives in to Mexico, maybe I need to start re-thinking a whole lot of things.

Mexico Strikes Back in Trade Spat - WSJ.com

I am certainly going to sit back and watch how the new Administration handles this one, especially with the ever increasing gang and drug wars in Mexico spilling across the U.S. borders.
Mexico Tariffs Test Obama. - NewsFeed Researcher Overview Of: Mexico, Mexican, Mexicans, States, Drug, State, Chaos, Counterp...

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 7:42:19 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

Okay, I just heard some news I count NOT believe.
So I had to check it out.
Apparently it is true folks, Mexico is trying to threaten the US with tariffs.
Unfuckingbelievable.

Mexico threatented the U.S. with tariffs in a trade dispute, over not allowing Mexican
trucks to transport cargo throughout the U.S.
Evidently, we have had safety concerns and political objections including real minor concerns like
whether the drivers had records, spoke English and were adequately tested for drugs and alcohol.

Now if the White House gives in to Mexico, maybe I need to start re-thinking a whole lot of things.

Mexico Strikes Back in Trade Spat - WSJ.com

I am certainly going to sit back and watch how the new Administration handles this one, especially with the ever increasing gang and drug wars in Mexico spilling across the U.S. borders.
Mexico Tariffs Test Obama. - NewsFeed Researcher Overview Of: Mexico, Mexican, Mexicans, States, Drug, State, Chaos, Counterp...

Mia --- If you look at it deeply....this is extremely good news... Americans should pray to the sky gods every day that every single one of our trading partners, sovereign nations, etc, erect trade barriers, and think and move in a more protectionist/nationalistic manner.

This will be the best chance we have to see the unraveling of all these subversive ''free trade'' treaties that attack labor and protect /enrich capital.

Three cheers for Mexico.....

- R

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 7:45:38 PM

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Do you actually think the U.S. would PROTECT itself!

gasp! no fucking way!

Do you think we could become "protectionists"?
Should we take notes from the Mexicans?

What is the first law of nature again?
Oh yeah....self preservation!

< Message edited by MzMia -- 3/19/2009 7:48:01 PM >

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 7:56:31 PM

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Do you actually think the U.S. would PROTECT itself!

gasp! no fucking way!

Do you think we could become "protectionists"?
Should we take notes from the Mexicans?

What is the first law of nature again?
Oh yeah, protect yourself.

I think most Americans are very confused in this regard : They just don't understand that '' free trade '' ---as they're calling it---is merely an attempt to bloat the labor pool for the sole purpose to enrich capital.

It really has no other purpose....And where the average American fails, is when he or she gets into a ''fairy tale'' mode and self projects into the role of capital.

- R

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 8:00:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheUtopian

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

Do you actually think the U.S. would PROTECT itself!

gasp! no fucking way!

Do you think we could become "protectionists"?
Should we take notes from the Mexicans?

What is the first law of nature again?
Oh yeah, protect yourself.

I think most Americans are very confused in this regard : They just don't understand that '' free trade '' ---as they're calling it---is merely an attempt to bloat the labor pool for the sole purpose to enrich capital.

It really has no other purpose....And where the average American fails, is when he or she self projects into the role of capital.

- R

I agree the "average American" is fucking clueless, and probably could not get a clue if they
were handed out on the corner.
People losing jobs daily, barely any jobs to be found.
How is all this free trade crap working for us these days, Utopian?

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 8:05:40 PM

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free trade is a disaster.

vive Mexico

tarrifs are going to go up- everywhere because free trade is dead.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 8:12:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

free trade is a disaster.

vive Mexico

tarrifs are going to go up- everywhere because free trade is dead.

free trade died in the 90's I believe.
Where have ya been hunky? I have missed reading your posts.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 8:19:28 PM

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Oh I was posting on a silver site.

....Mexico like many countries was shorted over agreements such as NAFTA. I dont blame them for asserting their sovereignty. (as we should)

These free trade agreements were suppose to be good for everyone and yet- they are a massive disaster for all countries. Even worse is it makes each country too dependent on some place else for necessities.

So who benefits? The middlemen. As in the illuminatti/ power elite. Even if they claim to be broke- they set up dummy shell corporations to fake losses and gains. Like right now the tax payer holds the loss conglomerate- while the gains are in some untouchable unknown legal entity - ...awfully convenient.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 8:49:55 PM

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Thanks for posting this, Mz Mia. I expect more tariff disputes as long as the recession lasts.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:07:55 PM

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Thanks for posting this, Mz Mia. I expect more tariff disputes as long as the recession lasts.

No problem Vendaval, this time next year our "recession" will officially be a "depression".
I really hope it won't be a depression, but most of the indicators I see, lead me to believe that.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:09:14 PM

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I think that some areas are already in a depression.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:11:11 PM

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No doubt, but many don't understand what is going on, until
if and WHEN the government tells them.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:15:15 PM

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Too true.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:15:42 PM

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It is my understanding that this is something we signed off on with NAFTA....

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:21:51 PM

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It was a pilot program that was ended under the budget Obama just signed....

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_11944486

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:24:54 PM

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hopfully mexico doesnt annex you guys down there.

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:33:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Thanks for posting this, Mz Mia. I expect more tariff disputes as long as the recession lasts.

No problem Vendaval, this time next year our "recession" will officially be a "depression".
I really hope it won't be a depression, but most of the indicators I see, lead me to believe that.

Mia --- I want to point out to you that with current and future administrations.... there is no way in hell they will ever officially recognize any economic downturn as a classic depressionary period, similar to that of 1929.

For instance, in the early eighties, the Reagan administration twice changed how the CPI index as well as employment/unemployment data was formulated and then calculated out into official numbers. If that same data were still compiled and factored by pre-Reagan methods, both inflation and unemployment rates would be significantly higher.

I think we would need to see a ten-percent contraction in official GDP before any current/future administration would officially recognize that we were in a similar downturn to that of the 1929 period.

I can never see that happening....

Officially,

Joe the plumber.....

- R

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/19/2009 9:38:30 PM

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Ah so this will be the next Great Depression, that we call a very, long, lasting "Recession"!

I got it.

Sort of like the story of the Emperor with no clothes on, but no one says anything?
I will continue to call it a Depression.

< Message edited by MzMia -- 3/19/2009 9:40:03 PM >

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/20/2009 5:20:21 AM

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Mexico threatens us with tarriffs?!?!?!?!?!? Thats it! Bring all of our troops home now! We invade Mexico tomorrow for ... "the good of its people." Then we make it our newest state (or 2 or 3 ).

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RE: Mexico threatening the USA? Unbelievable folks! - 3/20/2009 8:02:13 AM

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It is my understanding that this is something we signed off on with NAFTA....

Mike, "we?"
The American People never wanted "NAFTA!"
Clinton had to sneak it through a "lame duck congress" in '94 I think otherwise it never would have passed!
There was a tremendous amount of pressure against it!
Clinton had to promise that NAFTA would create, "millions of high-paying manufacturing jobs"
Well where are those jobs?
We started losing jobs almost *immediately* after it was passed!
The American People never wanted that POS NAFTA, the people in our govt. wanted it for their big business buddies!
President Obama needs to get us O-U-T of "NAFTA" forthwith!

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