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ORIGINAL: pinkwind

For an obviously intelligent couple they showed an unhealthy amount of naivete regarding what they were doing, and the impact that being known for doing it would have on their lives and careers. This isn't rocket science!

my D/s enhances my life with Andy, and we are open about it because we have nothing to lose by that openness. If we had careers and status that needed protecting from people and a society less tolerant than we would hope, i know we would be more circumspect, careful in our dealings with folk, where we went, what we did.

i would go as far as i possibly could to have a D/s relationship including, as it happens, leaving a marriage of 30+ years, a couple of adult ex dependants and a network of friends who did not know, or did not approve of what i was doing. my choice, my loss, my gains. And my risk assessment.

People make choices, some work, some don't, but they generally make them armed with enough information to make a value judgement. If this couple didn't do that, more fool them. They should have known the risks, surely?


Edited to add that with the marriage went a family home i had invested 30 years of time,effort and money in, and took away with me very little to show for all that. And i did it willingly, with such a surety there was no other way.

So pinkwind,
even you say that people in certain workfields,
should be careful with saying they are into D/s
if I read you right?

Amazing, I've never looked at that. I'm openminded
and believe that people should do the things they love,
unless they don't hurt others and it's consentual.

But apparently the world still isn't ready, for it.

It's amazing though, that people in certain workfields,
should be more carefull then others.

But apparently this is the way it is in life.

Thank you for your contribution.

I wish you enough.

GoddezzT`

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

I will go as far as it takes to further my lifestyle goals as long as it doesn't impact negatively on family. I am not known for delicacy in my opinions and am up front regarding my lifestyles both in private and in public. The sensibilities of others are not permitted to dictate what I do or how I live. 

I understand what you're saying here IronBear,
but don't you agree, that if anyone wants to do you wrong,
that they can nail you, simply on the fact that you practice
D/s or isn't it that simple?

it's one of the questions which came to Mind,
reading about this movie & story behind it.

I wish You enough

GoddezzT`

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ORIGINAL: antipode

The magazine is a tabloid. The judge was accused of facilitating prostitution, but he did participate in the S/M, and he has been charged with malicious wounding, as well, the issue being that commercial videos were made of her use and abuse. All of this happened prior to 1997 (!!), when the laws and the tolerance in Belgium were very different from what they are today. I am inclined to opine that, as a Member of the Bar, and an appointed judge, he probably should have known better than to have his wife publicized, and kept his predilections in private, where there would not have been issues. The prosecutor felt that she was not a willing participant, and he made his case in judicial court. The reason why this is being published today is that a movie is being made of the story.

From taking a quick look, he got stupid; there are things that you just can't do when you are in certain positions - if you worked for the U.S. government and you had secret clearance and you made videos of your wife being "done" by third parties, and beaten, you'd very likely get fired too.

Hello antipode,

I know it's an old story, I never heard about it, untill I heard about the movie, which came out recently, that's what caught My eye, and made Me question this.

I didn't read any articles in which it stated that he participated, so I don't have all the info about it. But if You say he did, I asume that he did that.

I also didn't knew that he had movies made of her, see I don't know the whole story, but still.. I do believe, despite the job you do,
if you're in D/s you're in D/s which is about something
consentual between 2 adults.
And in My eyes that should not matter.

Why would it b "less bad"when you're a clerk?
Or a judge, people are still people right?

That's something I don't understand.

Apparently it's still in a corner of insanity, and it's less worse
to  have an insane clerk then a judge * smirks*

It's not right, that's why I brought this under the attention
of everyone. Because I think this isn't right.

But.. the world thinks differently.

They are still fighting to get their rights back in 2009.

Thank You for Your contribution.

Warm Greetingz

GoddezzT`

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ORIGINAL: MistressMeltz

That seems like extremes to me but some would say that I go through extremes. I have a vanilla relationship with a good man who spoils me. He obliges me in anyways possible. Yet, I seek a true sub in every sense of the word. My fiance is my King. Therefore, I could not see myself belittling him in any way. However, I desire a sub that I can humiliate, spank, train and groom.

Would this be considered going to far or just wanting the best of both worlds becuase I know that I can have them?  

Well this is a different question, then which I asked,
but if all partys agree on what you want, then there is nothing wrong in My book.
Does ya future hubby know? :D

Goodluck

GoddezzT`

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

This is just not a kink for me, it is how I prefer my interpersonal relationships. I have a slave girl, and it is consensual slavery so it does not violate any laws. As far as what occurs within the privacy of my home, that is protected as well. My girl follows three steps behind and to my left where ever we go. She refers to me as Master, whether in public or private. She asks permission to do everything, whether in public or private.

This is me, it is how I live, it is part of my principles, ethics and morality. I am an independent contractor, and have no problems loosing my clients if that is what they want to do. People do not need to approve of me, or how I live, and I am not about to force them to.

Now do I advertise it so that everyone is sure to know? Of course not, but if asked or confronted about it, I am not going to deny it. Society will always be judgemental, and it will always try to force people into being sheep. I will not follow the herd for the sake of blending in and covering my ass.

Others can do as they wish.

Hello OrionTheWolf,

I understand what You're, but the same question
to you, if I understand it right, and someone
would want to put you in a bad spotlight,
that they could use D/s to get to you, right?

Even if you don't mean any harm to your girl,
and it's all consentual.

It's just that I've a hard time believing such.
That you've to becarefull with it, to go outside,
because it makes you look bad in the Outerworld.
When You're in D/s.

I thank You for Your contribution, and
Wish You enough.

GoddezzT`

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Life without Ds.
Take away the BDSM.
Living like a 'vanilla'.
 
These are all subjects that have come up recently.  Actually they come up a lot.  As if being in a Ds etc relationship makes a person special or different in general.  Bubble burst - it doesn't.  You live who you are and just be yourself.  Personally, I find it ultra weird.
I find it weird that people are so obsessed with the concept that they can't live without it.  To me, that's an addiction.  If someone comes onto the forum saying they cannot live life without cheeseburgers or chocolate or medication - the majority would tell them to get help.
 
I don't live for Ds.  I live for my family, for my relationship and myself.  If I became too sick to serve, then we deal.  If Darcy has a don't know moment on a decision, we get through it.  I don't get the whole mentality of Ds coming before ones partner or family.
 
If your so obsessed that you can't live life as yourself and need to quantify it as Ds and that without it, life is unbearable, you need a better life.  Get therapy.
 
the.dark.

Oh I couldn't agree more the dark,
I lead a vanilla life, and happen to like D/s,
but it's not that I can't live without it,
I wouldn't die of that, smirks.

But that's a totally different subject.

Thank you kindly for your contribution.

GoddezzT`