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slavetoy4ltr -> male involvement (3/16/2009 4:08:56 PM)

Hello everyone! Although i list myself as a straight male slave, i have had a couple of Dommes ask me if i would be willing to let another man (dressed as a man or as a woman) watch our activities, make comment on our activities, touch me, and perhaps stimulate me manually and/or have me stimulate him manually and/or orally. Is there some sort of link between straight male slavery and bisexual activity? i am curious to get everyone's input female or male, dominant, submissive, slave and switch.




stella41b -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 4:47:10 PM)

Not unless you really want one..




ExKat -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 4:56:19 PM)

To be honest, submissives on either side can be expected to be bi- by their dominant. With male subs, it seems more often that they have to be "forced" into it. Whether or not there is a link between submissiveness and bisexuality...who knows?




VioletGray -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 4:58:26 PM)

Keep in mind that even though you are the sub, your boundaries have to be respected.  If any level of the proposition makes you uncomfortable, you should let the domme know.  If you're open to that sort of exploration that's one thing, but I suspect that if this didn't cross a boundary of some sort then you wouldn't have made this post at all.


Just my opinion, of course.




Prinsexx -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 5:01:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavetoy4ltr

Hello everyone! Although i list myself as a straight male slave, i have had a couple of Dommes ask me if i would be willing to let another man (dressed as a man or as a woman) watch our activities, make comment on our activities, touch me, and perhaps stimulate me manually and/or have me stimulate him manually and/or orally. Is there some sort of link between straight male slavery and bisexual activity? i am curious to get everyone's input female or male, dominant, submissive, slave and switch.

There's a kink-link between male slavery and anything if you are instructed by your Mistress.




feydeplume -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 5:20:43 PM)

"With male subs, it seems more often that they have to be "forced" into it."

And with female subs, it seems more often that they have to be forced (no quotes to make it fundishment ) into it.

sorry for the bitter note there, but we just don't hear that much about females wanted to be "forced" to be bi as we do about females being coerced and bullied into bi-sexual activities. Makes ya wonder a bit don't it?




slaveboy291 -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 5:26:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

Keep in mind that even though you are the sub, your boundaries have to be respected.  If any level of the proposition makes you uncomfortable, you should let the domme know.  If you're open to that sort of exploration that's one thing, but I suspect that if this didn't cross a boundary of some sort then you wouldn't have made this post at all.


Just my opinion, of course.



Unfortunately not all do, I've run into a couple of Doms who said being bisexual was part and parcel and that every Mistress requires that a male be involved with another male at one point or another.  But that's common, I seen alot of people who say what they're into, everybodies into.




slavekal -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 6:24:37 PM)

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!




MarcEsadrian -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 6:47:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavetoy4ltr
Is there some sort of link between straight male slavery and bisexual activity?


Inherently? No. That said, I do notice a tendency for female Keepers to enjoy this sort of sport. Why is an excellent question worth exploring.




zero69u2 -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 7:05:39 PM)

Is there some sort of link between straight male slavery and bisexual activity?

NO.. this is a negotiation of sorts though.. for wierd internet situations..

the old term cuckold... used in the sense she has another slave/hubby who wants to watch or in some cases is forced to watch as a way of humiliation or punishment..

humiliation play as a mindfuck can also be applied.. to see how far you really are willing to go..

I'd think of it more as negotiations which you could say No, not for me.. thanks but that's not my kink..

Alot of guys want 2 gals scenes.. I don't think its uncommon for gals to want 2 guys for their play scenarios..  

Until she formally introduces you to said guy how can you even make a legitimate decision.. on your own level of sexual involvement with him ?

I mean even if you were a bisexual submissive.. who's to say you'd be attracted sexually to her slaveboy or 400 lb gay hubby... ?











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LadyPact -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 7:19:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavetoy4ltr
Is there some sort of link between straight male slavery and bisexual activity?


Inherently? No. That said, I do notice a tendency for female Keepers to enjoy this sort of sport. Why is an excellent question worth exploring.


For anyone interested in some of the why's, how's, and wherefore's, there is a very extensive thread on the matter in the "Ask A Mistress" section.  It's a good read for those who are interested in the different angles.




DavanKael -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 7:37:28 PM)

I think that a lot of men have curiosities that they explain away via being 'forced' and, thus, hold onto their designation of 'straight' with a death-grip.  (Yes, I know, unpopular view to some...though, btw, I think guys being with guys is hot, I just think it's bi or gay, never straight). 
  Davan




Lashra -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 7:58:54 PM)

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every Mistress requires that a male be involved with another male at one point or another.


I do not require it and I am very much a female Dominant. So I guess that cancels out that generalization.

~Lashra




MissIsis -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 8:21:41 PM)

It isn't something I need or require.  Everyone will have their own take on it.  But I don't believe it is required by every Mistress.  




WestBaySlave -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 8:28:02 PM)

   I don't have much to contribute here, other than to say I'm rather glad I've largely escaped "forced bi" issues by being gay and being involved with gay male dominants. Not that I have anything against women, it's just that never having seen a vulva in person, I imagine them to be eight feet tall, carnivorous, and capable of traveling through the air at high speeds. [;)]




HeavansKeeper -> RE: male involvement (3/16/2009 8:29:49 PM)

My pet doesn't seem to have a sexual orientation so much as "sexuality". Some rush to call her bisexual, or bi-curious (a cop out term coined by insecure yuppies), but she seems to prefer me, then all attractive things.

I appreciate her outlook, as my slave. I understand not everyone feels this way about sex, and I would never demand it, but it's refreshing to see her not get hung up on arbitrary factors like gender.

In terms of the possible "link" you brought up... There is no causal link. There is a correlation in that many dominants of male submissves like to watch them interact with men. Partially for the man on man hotness, partially for the "forced bi" power thing.

Society and religion may tell you otherwise, but enjoy life. If your owner wants to see you giving a handy, who's it gunna hurt?

SSC.




LadyPact -> RE: male involvement (3/17/2009 6:11:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper

My pet doesn't seem to have a sexual orientation so much as "sexuality". Some rush to call her bisexual, or bi-curious (a cop out term coined by insecure yuppies), but she seems to prefer me, then all attractive things.

I appreciate her outlook, as my slave. I understand not everyone feels this way about sex, and I would never demand it, but it's refreshing to see her not get hung up on arbitrary factors like gender.

In terms of the possible "link" you brought up... There is no causal link. There is a correlation in that many dominants of male submissves like to watch them interact with men. Partially for the man on man hotness, partially for the "forced bi" power thing.

Society and religion may tell you otherwise, but enjoy life. If your owner wants to see you giving a handy, who's it gunna hurt?

SSC.


Not to nit pick, but I don't think the term bi-curious has that slant to it.  I tend to go with the more literal definition. I honestly believe that some people are curious and just don't know how they feel about it.  They haven't had the particular experience for themselves.

I also happen to be supportive of the term "situationally bi."  (My spell checker doesn't seem to like that term, so maybe I'm wrong.)  Meaning only willing to engage in bisexual activities under certain situations, such as under the direction of a Dominant, etc.




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: male involvement (3/17/2009 6:13:24 AM)

I prefer the term heteroflexible myself.




LadyPact -> RE: male involvement (3/17/2009 6:18:24 AM)

Good Morning, BSB.

Hetroflexible (hmmm, spell check doesn't like that either, lol) implies something a little different to Me.  While I could see it interchanged with bi or situational, I couldn't swap it for the curious variety.




FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: male involvement (3/17/2009 6:45:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavetoy4ltr
 Is there some sort of link between straight male slavery and bisexual activity?
Absolutely not...   Unless you wanted to find someone who thinks that link is hot, than you definitely could.    As to online dominas asking this question, you should know that many online dominas are men who want to see you naked and do things with you, online or in real life; so feeling out your comfort zone is important in that regard.    M
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