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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

We have a water drainage problem, caused by part of the building settling lower another part of the building making it to where in heavy rain it will sometimes leak under the door.

So, I've looked at the problem and determined the only way to fix this situation is to construct a drainage contraption. Essentially I'm going to build where the vast majority of the water drains off the building a sort of water storage bin, that is connected to the main drainage pipe that is now to high compared to the effected area, the pipe runs about a 100 feet under the building and exists into the ditch.

Essentially I'm going to using cinder blocks and concrete to build the basin area up about 3-4 feet off the ground. The pipe, and here is where the question comes in will be either made of cement or contain a plastic pipe housed in cement.

Well, when we purchased this place, they had left lots of concrete in bags, they left cinder blocks on a pallet, and a barrel full of concrete. It all still looks good, so I'm awash in free concrete. So, I'm wanting to build a pipe that is a 100% concrete. Because I don't want to spend any money.

Here's my idea for doing such, if someone has experience and can tell me if this will work or not. I plan on building the underground part in segments and coating the small excess piece of pipe matching the diameter of the long drainage pipe with vaseline or some type of coating to prevent it from adhering with the concrete, simply using it to force the concrete to form around it, then the "theory" is I'd be able to remove that 2 foot length of pipe and make the next section.

So, the end result will be a solid buried underground concrete pipe.

So, the essential question I guess is will vaseline work to stop the concrete from gripping the pipe, or is there something better for this purpose. Thanks.

The effected area must be drained using that one drain pipe as the building is a U shape, with the water problem in the middle of the U, the pipe is the only alternative outside of get heavy machinery involved.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

You need a structural engineer or an excavator with fifty years experience. Preferably both.

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
NO CONCRETE as water will eventually break down mixed concrete and make it as if you had done nothing.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
NO CONCRETE as water will eventually break down mixed concrete and make it as if you had done nothing.

       That is just completely wrong, Steel.  I mean 180 degrees of bullshit.  Concrete and water are the best of friends.  If you had such an experience during your landscaping days, you mixed your components completely wrong.

     Need, there is no law anywhere that says pipe has to be round.  Just build a damn binjo ditch, and cover it.  Or buy pipe, and use the concrete to build a nice reflecting pool or koi pond at the outflow point.

   

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
NO CONCRETE as water will eventually break down mixed concrete and make it as if you had done nothing.

      That is just completely wrong, Steel.  I mean 180 degrees of bullshit.  Concrete and water are the best of friends.  If you had such an experience during your landscaping days, you mixed your components completely wrong.

    Need, there is no law anywhere that says pipe has to be round.  Just build a damn binjo ditch, and cover it.  Or buy pipe, and use the concrete to build a nice reflecting pool or koi pond at the outflow point.

  

You need to do so research on Mix your own Concrete then. Cause I got do it yourself jobs falling apart every day. There are THOUSANDS of DIFFERENT Concrete Mistures used in Professional Jobs every day. I am assuming that He has a Wheelbarrow and a Shovel and Bags of Pre Mixed which is the WORST thing that can be used for what he is explaining.

Don't take my word for it go to Home Depot and ask ANYONE in that area. Premix in Bags, again which I am assuming is what he has, is not good for what he wants to do, he needs something with a Hard cure and that requires a special mixture and because the concrete will be submerged and Constantly wet it will need to be either Pressure Formed like Concrete Drainage Pipe which I am also cure he doesn't have or it will nee to be rebar reinforced which I am assuming he does not know how to do.

Concrete and water CAN MIX Yes but not the way he was planning on doing it.

Hell don't take my word for it READ THE BAG OF CONCRETE Most will tell you the extent they are workable

Steel

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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Don't take my word for it

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ORIGINAL: igor2003

I don't know what your annual rainfall is there, but what about just catching and holding the rainwater in a cistern for use during the summer to water a lawn?  No need to run a drain then.

Or...you say the problem area is at the base of a "U" shaped building?  Have you considered just running rain gutters to the ends of the "U" so that the water dumps outside of the problem area?

You could then use the concrete, cinder blocks, etc. for a koi pond, sidewalk, etc....or donate the good items to the local "Habitat for Humanity" and get the tax write-off?

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

How much concrete mix have you got? Is there enough to make a swimming pool?