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Sandor6 -> Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 9:57:13 AM)

My new sub is very much into humiliation. Please share some of your favorite ways to hummiliate. One that was suggested is to take her to a nice restaurant, have her go into the ladies room and remove her panties and then bring them back to the table. Then you take them and in a loud voice, holding her panties at eye level, say..."what are these for?"

Please share any and all creative ways of humiliation both public and especially for humiliation in private.


Sandor6




kittinSol -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 9:58:40 AM)

How much will you pay us to brainstorm with us? This kind of thing ain't cheap, ya know [8D] .




tkenslve -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 10:00:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sandor6

My new sub is very much into humiliation. Please share some of your favorite ways to hummiliate. One that was suggested is to take her to a nice restaurant, have her go into the ladies room and remove her panties and then bring them back to the table. Then you take them and in a loud voice, holding her panties at eye level, say..."what are these for?"

Please share any and all creative ways of humiliation both public and especially for humiliation in private.


Sandor6



Please, oh please, oh please do not do that. While it may be humiliating for your sub, think of how it will be for the people who have to witness it. Do not subject them to such a scene when they didnt ask for it.






Aynne88 -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 10:03:14 AM)

Thank you.[8|]. I am sure that the rest of the dining room patrons thank you as well. Maybe we can assist him in understanding that public should mean "publicly private."? As in no I do not want to see the submissive panty humiliation during my salad course. Just a thought.




Knite064 -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 10:06:25 AM)

So let me get this straight...you as a grown man are going to sit in a restaurant full of people(that have not consented to being involved) and hold up a pair of ladies underwear and enquire what they are for?and then somewhere this translates to being humiliating for her..not you??hmm ok




Lockit -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 10:18:54 AM)

Oh come on... swing them a lil... I am sure I would find a hair in my plate and would have to sue somebody! hehe

But in all seriousness...

Do consider all people around you.  I would think if I were with my family having dinner I might want to knock your ass out because of the night long explaination I would have to give as instruction of what not to do in public.




Sandor6 -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 10:23:22 AM)

Sorry all,

I didn't do this and never will, just trying to get the conversation going with an idea someone suggested....now back to the thread.




strangedesire -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 10:45:45 AM)

Pulled from an email that I just sent to someone, because I'm lazy.

It's not something I've ever tried to do, but I've realized after the fact that a lot of what I do naturally could be classified as humiliation play. For example:
-getting men naked while I keep my clothes on
-name calling
-making men masturbate while I watch
-doing something pleasurable, and having a man beg me not to stop
-getting men to agree to something painful or unpleasant to be allowed to orgasm

I've spanked men over my knee and slapped them in the face, either one of which can be humiliating to the right person.




antipode -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 11:11:37 AM)

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Then you take them and in a loud voice, holding her panties at eye level, say..."what are these for?"


Ah nice, that is truly a novel idea - you're going to humiliate yourself! Do let us know how it worked out, wontcha?




DesFIP -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 11:50:23 AM)

You need to get into her brain to discover what is embarrassing to her, what is humiliating for her, and what is degrading for her. And make sure you know where her lines are so you don't do anything she could never get over.




Sandor6 -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 12:12:51 PM)

Thank you DesFIP.... mature advice




domcypher -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 12:33:20 PM)

remote egg vibrators are fun. you could have her wear a plug under her panties when you go to dinner... just don't ask her to pop it out onto the table or something. [sm=banghead.gif]




DelilahDeb -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 1:01:46 PM)


  • Humiliate: make humble.
  • Humble: low, near the ground. (word root is humus, the organic component of dirt, earth, soil)
  • Homage: respectful deference, obeisance; [Feudal Law: profession of fealty to one's overlord]


These are my simplified definitions, starting with the dictionary (which mostly defines humble by its opposites, not lofty). That said, WIITWD could be said to be humiliating by definition—depending on one's point of view.

  • nudity? humiliating
  • flogging? humiliating
  • CBT? humiliating
  • bondage? humiliating
  • public play? humiliating
    Et cetera, et cetera, ad infinitum.


Humiliation is not a purpose of my play. Humiliating another does not make me feel good. Hence, I do not set out to do so. At the same time, many of the forms of play that I enjoy may cause my subs to feel humble, or lowly, and at the same time bring them considerable pleasure thereby. Feeling the emotion of humiliation is what happens in the head and heart of a sub. The mirroring emotion, of feeling lofty or being the exalted elevated grandest pooh-bah, is not what I get out of our play. I'm still examining exactly what it is that I get out of it (apart from physical pleasure, sexual ecstasy, the results of service labors, and energetic satisfaction, of course)…or learning by self-observation.

Lady Delilah Deb




HeavansKeeper -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 1:41:10 PM)

This is a repost on the exact topic. I don't normally do this, but I feel I wrote something very helpful that most did not get to see:

I adore humiliation. I break it down into two sorts: General and Specific. General humiliation is basically talking dirty at the subject. This is most often populated with accurate verbal description of the situation and statements of the obvious. Suppose you have a submissive tied doggy style over a stool. I could do this in general terms, but you may appreciate an applied example.
(all with a demeaning tone, as if to say "aww... poor baby..")
"Hello Whore. I know... you're gagged. I'll unplug that hole when I need it. Do you like your new position? (don't wait for an answer, their answers don't matter). Of course you do, fuckdoll, anything that lets you get fucked. That's why you're here. You don't have to lie to me. All you want it to cum. You'll put up with whatever I want. Licking my feet, eating my ass, sucking my friend's cocks.. just for a chance to cum. And tied like this I don't think you could say "no". Not that you have permission to turn down men and women I rent you too. You're too stupid to figure out how to cum without going through this, Blow-Up-Doll."

Said paragraph can go on and on. Common tactics I use are to describe words they're comfortable with in vile and vulgar ways. Making them repeat "their mouth is a sexhole, just like their ass," is pretty humiliating. Notice, it may all be true, but takes no personal factors of the subject into account. The bottom in this example could be male, smart, experienced, physically fit, secure about their sexuality, new to you, a pain slut OR the complete opposite, and any combination in between. It's very nonspecific, which is why I consider it generic humiliation. It is real and accurate, but lacks the personal touch.

If you knew more about the subject, you can engage in personal humiliation. Take My Pet, for example. A female, intelligent, multi-orgasmic (or, at least, takes a few before she stops humping my leg), chubby, been with me for 2 years, shared online (but not in the real world yet), skilled with felatio, likes spankings, thrives after hardcore humiliation, possibly bisexual.
Imagine her in the same situation, and how the humiliation could go.

"Hello Whore. How's my throat shaped sex toy feeling today? I know you're gagged. We'll unplug that cum drain when I want a blowjob. After all, it's why I keep you around. It's not because of your obedience or looks. You're a fat insatiable cum piggy who needs her face inflated with dick or drowning in pussy. Has your mistress used your face today or can I skip hosing you down? I was thinking tonight we can go to the bar and pick up some chick so she and I can laugh while you drink the cum out of the condom I just fucked her."

This paragraph can go on and on. It's more vulgar. Possibly because the prospect of humiliation excites me [:)], but mostly because while both examples are real and true, this version is closer to the heart. Explaining how their "sick and perverted" fetishes are seen by the public can illicit shame in insecure bottoms.

Not everything is sexual. Humiliation can come from dehumanizing activities. Turning them into furniture or a bondage model is very powerful in reminding their body where they stand while your words take care of the mind. Especially in bottoms who are new to serving in public (either general public or select friends), having others be around is wonderfully humiliating. The most vile concepts I can spit can't hold a candle to having my pet be made to strip for a few of the fellas.

Strong personal humiliation is borderline abuse, which is what makes it very effective. There are things I can say to my pet to make her cry and truly hate herself and her past... While that can tap some very strong emotions and feelings, it must be dealt with carefully, and aftercare applied responsibly. It would be irresponsible of me to send her to bed thinking she'd be better off dead... That level of humiliation, while very possible, has never been something I enjoy (and expect very few bottoms would).

In short:
1) Strive for inventive ways to name parts of their body.
2) Remind them of the position/predicament they're in. (especially the power imbalance)
3) Prey on specific weaknesses and insecurities, but do so carefully.
4) Make them repeat/admit inventive phrases.
5) Ignore their responses/answer for them.
(While not shown here) 6) Humiliate physically by exposing and exploring their body with no shame. They are meat, and they belong to you.
7) Combine verbal humiliation with some sort of bondage to physically parallel the verbal message.
8) Mock their fetishes.
9) Consider the kicker of having others watch.
10) Be responsible. Take time for aftercare when needed. Do not cause lasting psychological harm.

This is not a complete dissertation on humiliation. Such a tome would take much longer to write and require more slaves to take dictation. If you have any questions about this taste of how humiliation can function, I'll give my answer. (Discreet answers available in letters).

An additional note on public play: When humiliating in public settings (restaurants, parks, malls, bars) remember that the people you expose to your antics are participating in the humiliation without consent. I'm not going to the extent of saying they need to be told what's going on, as if you were filming it for profit, but discretion should be used to ensure they're not bothered (temporarily or permanently) by your actions. Sending a boytoy to cum in the bathroom and drip it over his ice cream is one thing, fucking a slavegirl on the table at Denny's is another.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 1:55:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tkenslve

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sandor6

My new sub is very much into humiliation. Please share some of your favorite ways to hummiliate. One that was suggested is to take her to a nice restaurant, have her go into the ladies room and remove her panties and then bring them back to the table. Then you take them and in a loud voice, holding her panties at eye level, say..."what are these for?"

Please share any and all creative ways of humiliation both public and especially for humiliation in private.


Sandor6



Please, oh please, oh please do not do that. While it may be humiliating for your sub, think of how it will be for the people who have to witness it. Do not subject them to such a scene when they didnt ask for it.



Amen.

I do not consent for you to involve me in your scene while I am out to eat with my family, including those under the age of majority. I'm fairly certain no one else in the restaurant does either.

If you did this in a restaurant where I was eating, I would demand that the management instruct you to leave immediately. Leave your inappropriate behavior at home.




dreamerdreaming -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 3:47:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sandor6

My new sub is very much into humiliation. Please share some of your favorite ways to hummiliate. One that was suggested is to take her to a nice restaurant, have her go into the ladies room and remove her panties and then bring them back to the table. Then you take them and in a loud voice, holding her panties at eye level, say..."what are these for?"

Sandor6


Huh? How would that be humiliating for her?

I would think that if anything, it'd be humiliating for whoever would be dumb enough to hold panties aloft for all to see, in a restaurant!





sirsholly -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 3:54:14 PM)

i agree with everyone who said your desire for a humiliation scene should be between you and your submissive only




pinkwind -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 4:09:38 PM)

i presume you know your new sub a tad better than we do, and what makes her tick. Wouldn't it be better to be guided by her reactions to your own thoughts on humiliating her, rather than poll a bunch of complete strangers?

Does she realise you have asked others for their input?

That could be humiliating to her, finding out that what you have in store for her came from others and not you, or maybe not!





Knite064 -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/14/2009 5:27:45 PM)

Well i think its now established that the example you gave was nt the best .

When we are  learning  to use a flogger,singletail,cane etc, we learn how to strike safely,where not to strike,how hard to strike,when not to strike and instead caress and all that is required to gain the desired effect  as otherwise we risk causing long term or permanent injury the learning to a certain extent is taught behaviour .
The exact same principle applies with humiliation play only this time we cant learn in a mechanical/copycat fashion as the play is completely unique to the persons involved.
I could for example suggest using degrading references(slut bitch whore etc)now she could channel that positively and enjoy the verbalisms but then again i have no idea if she suffers low self esteem issues,history of abuse or simply those words are negative triggers for her and potentially could have a negative long term effect on her.
For this reason i could nt possibly give you any suggestions outright.

However as for the principles i believe in and using your example (and gods gotta love me for at least trying to use it) 
The restaurant idea comes across as both crass and lacking any sort of thought or imagination,and i would be concerned not only of involving the general public but also as to whether i was creating a sense of mistrust and betrayal from the submissive and reinforcing low self esteem etc .
But maybe with a little tweaking its workable...having her go into the ladies room and remove her underwear in privacy and being instructed to bring them back to you...then your options are varied..you can tease her about showing them off(please dont!!!the illusion is more effective than the crassness of following through and the added bonus of no members of the public being harmed during the making of this movie)or a series of tasks to be completed with  her reward being the safe return of these now world famous undergarments.(just as the sensation play of slow build up , loving caresses and sharp use of a flogger creates a mix of emotions then so does a variance in humiliation play)

Im sure there will be many that will disagree but with a little imagination,trust.chemistry and really getting to know her, her hot buttons and negative triggers then so called humiliation play can be an incredibly intimate and erotic act for both....but really, get to know her first.




NorthernGent -> RE: Humiliation Experiences (3/15/2009 9:53:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sandor6

Then you take them and in a loud voice, holding her panties at eye level, say..."what are these for?"



You may as well just go the whole hog and have her stand naked on the table while you tap her cunt with a cane and say: "what is that for?"......it may get you thrown out of the restaurant but you can't win 'em all!




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