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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 1:41:28 AM   
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One of my relatives is contractor and the employees that are the most reliable, dependable and hard working are the Mexican laborers.  He says that most Americans are not willing to work that hard nowadays.

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 2:07:18 AM   
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Nope...not a surprise at all. Everyday reading and learning about this "Stimulus Package" is like opening a new door...you never know what you going to find on the other side.
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But the one thing that we can be as sure of as death and taxes is that whatever is behind that door, you won't like it and will paint it in the most negative light possible, whether it has any basis in fact or not. It's good to have something to depend upon.




And your critique of my comments and the "facts" presented not being valid is based on what...your "opinon"?   Is that it?  Is that your rebuttal and correction of what you say are errors in truth?  Hey Spinner, your entitled to your "opinion" but opinions are like feelings..the're neither right or wrong...unless of course you can show some substance.  And you are happy with the way this administration is proceeding because..........? you are impressed with........? 

Well, I can point to something in your favor.  I guess if you consider how many democrats are paying overdue tax bills, paying social security and worker comp for nannies and maids..it's a good thing!  Yep...the democrats are just showing how "patriotic" they are, as Biden might say. By the way...does anyone care about Joe Biden...Damn..he has slipped under the radar. Probably must be working to vet staff for himself and Geithner who has no lieutenants to carry out his orders..when he has orders to carry out.

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 5:35:37 AM   
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More yelling about nothing. It's the same as it's always been. It's still illegal to hire illegal immigrants.

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 5:41:03 AM   
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[If you take out the melodramatics, the substance of your post sounds about right to me. With unemployment in this country heading fast toward the 10% level, I say get every one of them out of here and let them fend for themselves in Mexico or wherever they came from. I don't want one goddamned dime of my tax money being used to pay  the wages of illegal aliens when there are over 12 million legal American citizens out of work right now. Tackle the immigratiion problem somewhere down the road, but right now - today - every penny of that atrocious stimulus bill that is tasked to job creation should be used to to help American taxpayers find work to support their families.


While I do not deny the problem with illegal immigrants, I do have to wonder just why the hue and cry goes up about illegals in this country while nothing is said or done to stop the destruction of American jobs by outsourcing. Millions of American jobs have gone overseas. They are sent to places with no minimum wage, no environmental protection, no child labor laws. They are sent to places where the sweat shop is the economic production model.

So what is the difference if a Mexican takes an American's job by coming to America or if he takes it because it's brought to him in Mexico?

Why is one problem shouted about and the other ignored?

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 7:17:40 AM   
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From time to time I have casual labor positions to fill in the warehouses and have been known to use the local illegal population,(shame on me but, they do WANT to work) right now, I have one hell of a time finding them!....The folks we did have on a semi-regular basis are no longer here. Their most constant source of income came from the housing sector, no new houses, no money, no illegals to work. The link is mostly posturing and pandering to the fear of the possibilities and nothing more. Heck, I become used to posturing for failure from the poster, so it isn't too surprising.

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 7:36:49 AM   
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The funny part, we have the local Labourers Union next door.

Three blocks away there is a big construction site the Labourers have been picketing. Guess who is down there every day, rain sleet or snow, holding the picket signs......?

I will give you one clue.....It is none of the guys that drive in here in their new 4 wheel drive pickups for the meetings and none of the guys collecting unemployment whilst sitting in the local bar complaining about work being slow.


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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 1:13:30 PM   
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Damn. I knew the moment that ship landed out by Roswell, that we were going to be deluged with illegal aliens. Still, they ain't so bad... their math skills make them a wiz at accounting... and they just eat oatmeal! They never sleep, and one of 'em even fixed my old Ford so that it's invisible to the sheriff's radar.

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 4:03:51 PM   
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   Do they invite you over to their house parties?   I hear they have some great dance moves.                                               

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 4:27:04 PM   
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I've always wanted to learn to do the moonwalk...

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 4:28:52 PM   
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Ah, shit. I posted too fast. There's a Micheal Jackson joke in there, and I blew right past it. Michael Jackson, aliens, dance moves..... shitshitshitshit... Chance of a lifetime for a smartass like me, and  I blew it. 

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 4:29:55 PM   
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Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is an illegal alien , another is from Tennessee , and the third is from Minnesota.


All three go with a White House official to examine the fence. The Minnesota contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then work some figures with a pencil. "Well" he says, "I figure the job will run about $900 - $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."
The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job for $700 - $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me."
The Illegal Alien contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to the white House official and whispers, "$2,700."
The official, incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys!  How did you come up with such a high figure?"
The Illegal Alien contractor whispers back, "$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence."


"Done!" replied the
Government Official.
And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work.

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/10/2009 4:40:24 PM   
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I tend to believe that is exactly how most contracts will get decided

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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/11/2009 2:12:23 AM   
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Word is that he is giving his last tour.  Plenty of material for you to work with with that. 


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Ah, shit. I posted too fast. There's a Micheal Jackson joke in there, and I blew right past it. Michael Jackson, aliens, dance moves..... shitshitshitshit... Chance of a lifetime for a smartass like me, and  I blew it. 


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RE: Illegal Aliens may get "stimulus jobs" - 3/11/2009 2:42:32 PM   
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I believe Obama administration will present the same "comprehensive immigration" bill some time later this year (he needs to pay back to Mexican lobby for votes and he needs new votes by 2012). So there will be no illegals and the problem really does not exist.

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