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Gwynvyd -> Shameful army "charity" (2/22/2009 4:16:40 PM)
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090222/Army_s.Stingy.Charity.Abridged/ In this day and age that our returning men and women can not even feed their families or keep their homes due to foreclosure..... these bastards are hording money they have extorted from these same squeezed troops, and then not helping them when they come home. They have $345 million packed away. Only $64 mil was given in aid.. and 91% of that was loans. If they do not repay those loans then they get leaned on by their superiors.. and demoted, or not transferred untill they are paid off. This is just shameful. This is money that was basically extrorted from the troops themselves.... and they can not use it... or they get High Pressure loans from it if they meet very strict standards. just shakes her head Our men and women in uniform deserve much better then this. They are being forced to lean on civilian charities that can not keep up with the demands the civilians are throwing at them, little alone our troops. Gwyn

DomKen -> RE: Shameful army "charity" (2/22/2009 4:21:54 PM)
Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society better not be pulling this crap.

Gwynvyd -> RE: Shameful army "charity" (2/22/2009 4:37:54 PM)
Actually they are not. They have a hell of a lot less funds.. but they are dolling them out. thankfully The army is very good at with holding help. I should know.. I am an army brat. ~ I also have many friends in the army. They are Seriously hurting. Gwyn

SilverMark -> RE: Shameful army "charity" (2/22/2009 5:12:52 PM)
Reads less like a charity and more like a loanshrking operation!

Gwynvyd -> RE: Shameful army "charity" (2/22/2009 5:33:28 PM)
Sadly that is exactly how it is operating. They only give out a few loans... and then lean on them when they are late on payments. They are not really helping. They are just realy high pressure loan sharks. I think I would rather deal with a mobster then these guys. This is just deplorable. Gwyn

PanthersMom -> RE: Shameful army "charity" (2/22/2009 5:43:58 PM)
the army is not well known for dealing with its soldiers or its veterans very fairly. cub was in the army and he's having trouble getting his disability for service connected injury approved because his records were "lost". not just an incident report, not the report and treatment records for the specific incident, but his entire service record. supposedly signed out of the main records facility by an unnamed person, never to be seen again. how the hell do they do that? i'm sure he's not the only person to have this happen, but why should it happen at all? it's just not right, but it seems to be par for the course for army procedure. just one more insult to injury PM

FirmhandKY -> RE: Shameful army "charity" (2/23/2009 12:56:21 AM)
FR: I was fairly familiar with AER when I was in service. I'm not sure I buy into all of the article, as it seems kinda "muckrakest", and by the AP no less. I also do not know if the reserves that they are talking about "hoarding" is actually hoarding or not, as this is just one side of the story (and again, by the AP). On the other hand, since they "lost" $82 million last year due to the stock market "crash", I'm not sure that they are wrong about having large reserves. If things go even more south, they may be one of the few charities that might have sufficient funds to provide much of ANY emergency funds to soldiers. As a matter of fact, after re-reading the article a couple of times, I'd say it isn't "muckrakest", it flat out slanted. According to the articles own words, a charity should keep 1 to 3 years worth of funding. Since they gave out $64 million last year, a three year reserve fund would be about $192 million. They currently have $117 million in reserves ("packed away" in the articles terminology). Even a cursory reading with a critical eyes sees a lot more slanting going on. For example: quote: While independent on paper, Army Emergency Relief is housed, staffed and controlled by the U.S. Army. That's not illegal per se. Eric Smith, a spokesman for the Internal Revenue Service, said the agency can't offer an opinion on a particular charity's activities. But Marcus Owens, former head of IRS charity oversight, said charities like AER can legally partner closely with a government agency. Not illegal "per se"? This makes it sound if something fishy is going on. The fact is ... it's perfectly legal and legitimate. Lots more in the article, if you just look. It's a hit piece. Firm

came4U -> RE: Shameful army "charity" (2/23/2009 3:56:28 AM)
military men are 'dumb, stupid animals to be used' as pawns for foreign policy." Henry Kissinger -- Bob Woodward & Carl Bernstein, The Final Days, p. 208 When are you going to boycott your sons, husbands and fathers from going to war? C'mon we've all seen the movie Glory, the proud 54 refusing to loot and hoard....that pride is long gone. America has been looting an hoarding since WWI, II and beyond. Even til today troops in Iraq are running out of archaeological artifacts to ship home to their government or to Israel for SALE, study or exhibit. What would give you the impression that any funding through charity (that you didn't have access to watch over) wouldn't be funneled elsewhere? eesh. don't matter, just keep sending your sons, daughters, mothers, husbands and dads no questions asked. You can't. The power is out of your hands now. You gave it to them. Too late. If you ever do, the government that you love will blow you all up. Give up and just do their dirty deeds for em and quit bitchin' n complainin' eeesh. Give birth, stop cooking with cheese, sit at home all quiet...whatever it takes. If not, There are always others elsewhere to give them more sons, daughters, husbands, mothers and wives.

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