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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 4:35:00 PM   
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In 2010 people will still remember who put the economy in the state it is in now. Come to think of it why will they win due to poor economy in 2010 if they didnt win in 2008 ?


No they won't.  Obama and the Democrats are going through a honeymoon period right now.  It will last through the year, but it won't last until November 2010.  If the economy is still this bad (or worse), voters will blame the party in charge.  It doesn't matter if that's fair or not, that's the way it is.  When Bush Sr. lost in '92, I heard several Democrats say that he had no choice when he raised taxes.  It didn't matter;  people remembered that famous line, "...Read my lips..."  When the Republicans took the Congress in 1994, it was completely unexpected.  The Democrats can laugh it off all they want; the Republican Party is already mobilizing. 


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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 4:39:34 PM   
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A little socialism wont hurt us. Too few have too much and it needs to be redistributed. Multi-nationals have gutted our manufacturing and not brought the profits back. Nothing will change till we make it change.


Too few have too much?  Well, welcome to the real world.  Life is not the idylic scene on a college campus...it's the hard work of individuals, people who made something of their lives..worked 14 hours a day...and were successful. Now, I'm not one of those people but what right does someone who fucks  up their life, thinks the be all and end all is to have a six pack and Monday night football...while other people are taking risks, building companies, and wealth.  And now Obama and people llike you think that too few have too much..Maybe it's because too few are using the brain that God gave them.  While there is inherited wealth, mostly held by woman, by the way, America has been the land of opportunity for anyone to build a business...sometimes starting in a garage like Apple Computer...and become billionairs.What right does anyone have to "take" any part of that wealth away to give the fruits of a successful persons hard work to a loser.  From Bill Gates who built Microsoft, and gave us the operating system most of us use today on our PC's and put 60,000 people to work!  Michael Dell who gave jobs to 90,000 people and on and on...
These people give back as well...with the Gates Foundation a huge supporter of education and research.  Wealthy Wall Streeters support numerous charities that no one here bothers to research from "Harlem Children's Zone"  to Columbia Presberterian Hospital..and on and on.

Up until this administration, people who worked hard to achieve the American dream were encouraged.  Today, taxpayers are told that they have to pay the mortgage for the guy down the street who bit off more than he could chew..or send money to strangers who fucked up their lives on drugs, or thought college was a four year paid vacation, or were just downright lazy....as well as those that are truly needy through no fault of their own but on tough times now. 

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 4:46:16 PM   
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Its important for those in power to maintain a semblance of bipartisan infighting.  Whenever the party of the White House changes over, its important for all the taxpayers to focus on the bickering between the two groups, so that the U.S. taxpayers will not focus on holding those who voted treasonous legislation in, or made treasonous unilateral decisions that will affect the U.S. future for generations to come.  Some examples would be: Clinton's deal with the Chinese which gave ICBM technology to the Communist Chinese in return for the Chinese govt. allowing our corporations to screw our unions and use Chinese labor, The Patriot Act, the eradication of the Fairness Doctrine, NAFTA, CAFTA, SHAFTA, and plenty of other actions NOT REBELLED AGAINST by those in Washington.  Somehow this idea of a Middle Class came about, but there's not as much profit in that for the elite, as there was back in the good ol' days of Feudalism.  You might notice that we're gearing down to get back to that Grand Old Pace of the feudalistic society. 

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 6:56:14 PM   
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Read an article the other day where the reporter reasoned that a certain portion of the con party just can`t accept that Obama won.They just can`t get their heads around it.Like as if aliens landed or time stood still,lol.She said there are a whole lot of folks who can`t face waking up knowing he`s the president and feel good.

Sad yes,but it would explain a lot.



       A certain portion of the other party, huh?  Anything like this?

      Sad?  Not really.  It explains a lot, but it makes me chuckle. 

     

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 7:28:44 PM   
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Kinda like what I call give that man a cigar syndrome Bush supporters on the net suffer from.  Where they say that no matter what Bush did, it's not even close to being as bad as Clinton's lying about a blowjob.

The Republicans are the sorest losers on the planet.  The whole thing with Monica Lewinsky and stuff was all about the Republicans not facing the fact that they lost, twice.

And sorry but  while the Democrats did their share of whinning, nothing compares to the nonesense between 92 and 2000.


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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 9:15:31 PM   
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how long did sore loser liberals take to get over the 2000 election?
.  An election where the democrat lost his own home state.  If Gore won his home state he would have been president.  How pathetic.
http://www.sonofbush.com/

llegitimate President George W. Bush is an illegitimate president. He stole the 2000 election using his brother Jeb to fix the Florida election. And then finally getting the Supreme Court to declare him the winner in an act of supreme treason. Bush is not the President of the United States. And since he seized power and took office - he has done everything in his power to undermine America and sell us out to his small circle of contributors. Bush is a criminal and needs to be stopped. He's not my president! he Bush Presidency is really corporate presidency. America is not the government of the people. It's the government of Enron. It's the government of the oil, tobacco, the credit card companies, polluters, Christian terrorists, gun lobby, the media, and anyone who has the money to buy favors. These people are thieves and we have become the biggest threat to democracy on the planet. The people of America are now slaves to a government with no soul that is owned my multinational corporations - and they are using us to establish world domination. Bush was at least complicit in World Trade Center attack The single thing that sticks out in my mind about the World Trade Center attack is the fact that no fighter jets were scrambled to intercept those commercial jets.

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Kinda like what I call give that man a cigar syndrome Bush supporters on the net suffer from.  Where they say that no matter what Bush did, it's not even close to being as bad as Clinton's lying about a blowjob.

The Republicans are the sorest losers on the planet.  The whole thing with Monica Lewinsky and stuff was all about the Republicans not facing the fact that they lost, twice.

And sorry but  while the Democrats did their share of whinning, nothing compares to the nonesense between 92 and 2000.



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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 10:11:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Read an article the other day where the reporter reasoned that a certain portion of the con party just can`t accept that Obama won.They just can`t get their heads around it.Like as if aliens landed or time stood still,lol.She said there are a whole lot of folks who can`t face waking up knowing he`s the president and feel good.

Sad yes,but it would explain a lot.



      A certain portion of the other party, huh?  Anything like this?

     Sad?  Not really.  It explains a lot, but it makes me chuckle. 

    


Nope.

Here.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-02-15-pelosi-right-america_N.htm

Sporting anti-Obama shirts and occasional vitriol, many of Pelosi's interview subjects, most of them unidentified, are dogmatic, profane and adamant in their contempt for Obama.


Sounds like you and your republican friends.....

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/19/2009 10:34:28 PM   
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       Hehehehe.  I caught the end of that documentary tonight.  Damn near busted a gut laughing.  What a bunch of maroons.  Did you read far enough into the link to get to this tidbit about the artiste who created this?

She's the daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
 
       Now had she gone into the inner city, seeking morons to talk about what sorts of marvellous food stamp increases Obama would bring, I bet she'd get called a racist, and have to kiss Al Sharpton's ass, too.

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 4:50:53 AM   
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usually the only political haters are those still obsessed against bush and those democrats still angry at Joe Lieberman.


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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 4:57:18 AM   
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usually the only political haters are those still obsessed against bush and those democrats still angry at Joe Lieberman.




Agreed, thats why so many start pointless threads about Obama.

No wait ! Thats not right is it ?

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 7:35:24 AM   
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llegitimate President George W. Bush is an illegitimate president. He stole the 2000 election using his brother Jeb to fix the Florida election. And then finally getting the Supreme Court to declare him the winner in an act of supreme treason. Bush is not the President of the United States. And since he seized power and took office - he has done everything in his power to undermine America and sell us out to his small circle of contributors. Bush is a criminal and needs to be stopped. He's not my president! he Bush Presidency is really corporate presidency. America is not the government of the people. It's the government of Enron. It's the government of the oil, tobacco, the credit card companies, polluters, Christian terrorists, gun lobby, the media, and anyone who has the money to buy favors. These people are thieves and we have become the biggest threat to democracy on the planet. The people of America are now slaves to a government with no soul that is owned my multinational corporations - and they are using us to establish world domination. Bush was at least complicit in World Trade Center attack The single thing that sticks out in my mind about the World Trade Center attack is the fact that no fighter jets were scrambled to intercept those commercial jets.


Finally a paragraph that succinctly sums up Bush and the republicans. Can I use it without being accused of plagiarism?

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 8:57:07 AM   
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llegitimate President George W. Bush is an illegitimate president. He stole the 2000 election using his brother Jeb to fix the Florida election. And then finally getting the Supreme Court to declare him the winner in an act of supreme treason. Bush is not the President of the United States. And since he seized power and took office - he has done everything in his power to undermine America and sell us out to his small circle of contributors. Bush is a criminal and needs to be stopped. He's not my president! he Bush Presidency is really corporate presidency. America is not the government of the people. It's the government of Enron. It's the government of the oil, tobacco, the credit card companies, polluters, Christian terrorists, gun lobby, the media, and anyone who has the money to buy favors. These people are thieves and we have become the biggest threat to democracy on the planet. The people of America are now slaves to a government with no soul that is owned my multinational corporations - and they are using us to establish world domination. Bush was at least complicit in World Trade Center attack The single thing that sticks out in my mind about the World Trade Center attack is the fact that no fighter jets were scrambled to intercept those commercial jets.


Finally a paragraph that succinctly sums up Bush and the republicans. Can I use it without being accused of plagiarism?



You also need to add a few more lines of propaganda.  Since a few weeks before the 9-11 attacks we had a huge surplus.  Something like The evil bush conspiracy to wipe out the surplus was at root behind the 9-11 attack.  In an instant he achieved his evil goals as the economy grinded to a halt after the attacks.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/08/19/dnc.anti.bush.ads/index.html

August 19, 2001 Posted: 8:09 AM EDT (1209 GMT)
Lastly, the White House says this year's surplus, which will be between $160 billion and $170 billion, is the second-largest in U.S. history and laudable in the midst of a dramatic economic slowdown.


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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 9:32:21 AM   
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how long did sore loser liberals take to get over the 2000 election?
.  An election where the democrat lost his own home state.  If Gore won his home state he would have been president.  How pathetic.
http://www.sonofbush.com/

llegitimate President George W. Bush is an illegitimate president. He stole the 2000 election using his brother Jeb to fix the Florida election. And then finally getting the Supreme Court to declare him the winner in an act of supreme treason. Bush is not the President of the United States. And since he seized power and took office - he has done everything in his power to undermine America and sell us out to his small circle of contributors. Bush is a criminal and needs to be stopped. He's not my president! he Bush Presidency is really corporate presidency. America is not the government of the people. It's the government of Enron. It's the government of the oil, tobacco, the credit card companies, polluters, Christian terrorists, gun lobby, the media, and anyone who has the money to buy favors. These people are thieves and we have become the biggest threat to democracy on the planet. The people of America are now slaves to a government with no soul that is owned my multinational corporations - and they are using us to establish world domination. Bush was at least complicit in World Trade Center attack The single thing that sticks out in my mind about the World Trade Center attack is the fact that no fighter jets were scrambled to intercept those commercial jets.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboy291

Kinda like what I call give that man a cigar syndrome Bush supporters on the net suffer from.  Where they say that no matter what Bush did, it's not even close to being as bad as Clinton's lying about a blowjob.

The Republicans are the sorest losers on the planet.  The whole thing with Monica Lewinsky and stuff was all about the Republicans not facing the fact that they lost, twice.

And sorry but  while the Democrats did their share of whinning, nothing compares to the nonesense between 92 and 2000.






Well it's the truth, other than the complicity. 

And it was nothing like the whinning the Republicans did after Clinton won which was all about them not facing the fact that he beat them.  

Sorry, but just like pointing out all the mistakes past and present presidents made doesen't change the fact that a man with no arms no legs who can't see hear or speak could've done a better job than Bush did.

Pointing out the whinning after the 2000 election doesen't change the fact that Republicans got Clinton impeached simply because they were the sorest bunch of losers in history. 

Sorry you can point out as many things as you can.

Bush was still an incompetent fool.

And the Republicans are really really petty when they lose.

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 9:43:13 AM   
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Impeaching Clinton for his Monica testimony was like getting al Capone for tax evasion.
Bill should have been impeached for chinagate and possibly executed for treason.  With all the key witnesses leaving the country you get what you can get.  What was left was a blue dress with the presidents DNA sample on it.  Just imagine if Monica swallowed then there wouldn’t have been an impeachment.





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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 11:15:58 AM   
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To use a parrallel example to yours, Bush leaving office and not being impeached is akin to Carlo Gambino(once head of the most powerful mob family, the one John  Gotti ran into the ground) dying without ever going to prison.  What Clinton did, sorry but pales in comparison to Bush. 

And it's more like if the Republican party were more gracious in defeat, there wouldnt've been an impeachment.  Because that's what it was all about.  The Republicans not willing to face the fact that they were defeated.  It had nothing with Lewinsky,
she  was just a pawn on the chessboard.

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RE: RUSSIA and CHINA warn OBAMA - 2/20/2009 12:19:12 PM   
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i wish bush was impeached.  Then Cheney would have been able to run things.  Only reason why i supported bush was Dick Cheney influence.

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