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Why is this a problem? The US cannot continue running around fighting these battles. If the people of that region want it, then let it be. If a horrible massacre happens or some such, then let it be.

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President Barack Obama has approved adding about 17,000 U.S. troops for the flagging war in Afghanistan, administration, defense and congressional officials said Tuesday.
The Obama administration is expected to announce on Tuesday that it will send one additional Army brigade and an unknown number of Marines to Afghanistan this spring and summer. Officials spoke on condition of anonymity ahead of the official announcement. About 8,000 Marines are expected to go in first, followed by about 9,000 Army troops.

Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090217/D96DJ2V80.html  

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Acknowledging that industry conditions are worse than expected when it made the case in December for a government bailout, Chrysler requested an additional $5 billion in government loans. It originally said it would need $3 billion more. The company had previously received $4 billion from the Treasury Department. Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090217/D96DJ4080.html  

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Why is this a problem? The US cannot continue running around fighting these battles. If the people of that region want it, then let it be. If a horrible massacre happens or some such, then let it be.

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ORIGINAL: corysub

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Why is this a problem? The US cannot continue running around fighting these battles. If the people of that region want it, then let it be. If a horrible massacre happens or some such, then let it be.

I hear ya, but you must have forgotten the tough talk from candidate Obama who said that if was president and they found Usama in Pakistan he would send troops in to take him out!  So your suggestion is that the foreign policy of now President Obama is to "see no evil" "hear no evil"  "speak no evil". When in doubt...say nothing....brilliant. 

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The political leaders of the world have already figured out that the new American President is an empty suit.  Whether he is or not...it is that perception that makes all of us a little less safe this evening.  The soviets underestimated JFK and we almost had a nuclear war over Cuba.  However, JFK had the brains of Bobby behind him and some very experience people. Obama has Joe Biden!  Praise Jesus!

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JFK also had the memories of WW2 and understood the threat facing the U.S.  I'm not sure this administration understands just how dedicated is our Islamic terorist adversary.  These people are ready to die for Allah...you really can't defend against a martyr.
You may recall that it was the taliban that gave Usama sanctuary..and now they have an area of Pakistan that they will rule with sharia law. That's why it is important.

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I agree with you if the people of the region want it...let them be. As far as I'm concerned if they want to grow poppies, and keep their woman ignorant and covered from head to toe...who are we to want to change their "culture".  However, that was not the case in 2001...and I don't want to give them the opportunity to repeat that horror in 2009 or 2010.  That's why it is important..to me at least.

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UPSG...nice post on the muslim religion.  The key point of it all that you make, and please correct me if I'm wrong, was  "If they want to live a certain way then let them so long as they are not bothering us."  Well..they sure want to "bother us"...like kill 3,000 in the Towers.  I don't know where you live but I lived and worked in NYC at the time...I also worked for a firm that was in the south Tower and we lost six people when the building collapsed. I would say that was a tad more than a "bother".  That attack too a couple of years of training, was very sophisticatd, and bad one purpose...to kill as many Americans as possible on a stage big enough to get world attention...and that they did.  George Bush deleted his entire presidential agenda on 9/12/01 and his entire focus was on protecting U.S.  US...from another attack like that on his watch. He did that well for the remainder of his term, notwithstanding attacks from the left, the
AC:LU and even a neighbor who sold insurance and was convinced the NSA was tapping her phone...I guess to get the latest competitive rates that State Farm or Prudential were posting.

Sometimes a President grows into the job when reality hits.and I hope, I pray that  Obama succeeds as well as Bush for the country and for some very personal reasons.

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UPSG...nice post on the muslim religion.  The key point of it all that you make, and please correct me if I'm wrong, was  "If they want to live a certain way then let them so long as they are not bothering us."  Well..they sure want to "bother us"...like kill 3,000 in the Towers.  I don't know where you live but I lived and worked in NYC at the time...I also worked for a firm that was in the south Tower and we lost six people when the building collapsed. I would say that was a tad more than a "bother".  That attack too a couple of years of training, was very sophisticatd, and bad one purpose...to kill as many Americans as possible on a stage big enough to get world attention...and that they did.  George Bush deleted his entire presidential agenda on 9/12/01 and his entire focus was on protecting U.S.  US...from another attack like that on his watch. He did that well for the remainder of his term, notwithstanding attacks from the left, the
AC:LU and even a neighbor who sold insurance and was convinced the NSA was tapping her phone...I guess to get the latest competitive rates that State Farm or Prudential were posting.

Sometimes a President grows into the job when reality hits.and I hope, I pray that  Obama succeeds as well as Bush for the country and for some very personal reasons.

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George Bush deleted his entire presidential agenda on 9/12/01 and his entire focus was on protecting U.S.  US...from another attack like that on his watch. He did that well for the remainder of his term, notwithstanding attacks from the left, the
AC:LU and even a neighbor who sold insurance and was convinced the NSA was tapping her phone...I guess to get the latest competitive rates that State Farm or Prudential were posting.

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ORIGINAL: corysub
George Bush deleted his entire presidential agenda on 9/12/01 and his entire focus was on protecting U.S.  US...from another attack like that on his watch. He did that well for the remainder of his term, notwithstanding attacks from the left, the
AC:LU and even a neighbor who sold insurance and was convinced the NSA was tapping her phone...I guess to get the latest competitive rates that State Farm or Prudential were posting.

Deleted his agenda? He only tried to privatize social security, imagine if that had happened people really would be jumping out windows.

As to protecting us from attack, he failed and failed miserably. Thousands of US citizens are dead today from attacks committed by Al Qaeda and other muslim extremists since 9/11.

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The democrat party slammed the young people in this country with all that sound and fury against the privatization of Social Security.  So now 15&% of your annual income is put into a fund...that is broke to the tune of  more than US$60 TRILLIONS, and that estimate was as of a few years ago and is higher today.  Now if your over 60 years of age that numbe might not mean a thing...but if you are now making your SSI contributions at 20, 30, or even in your late 40's..lots of luck to ya. If the idiots in Congress did not kill the Bush plan, you would have been able to be in charge of some percentage, maybe half, of your annual donation to the United States Treasury. Particularly if you are one of those enthusiatic citizens of the Obamanation and believe our salvation is at hand...today..right now, would be the perfect time to start a long term investment program. You could be investing in gold you could be investing in a General Electric at close to $10 a share..a Cisco in the mid-teens,and on and on.  Even those who have lost 30-50% in their 401k still HAVE 50 to 70% of their money.  If I had been able to invest my own funds over the past thirty years I would be one happy camper right now in the midst of all this carnage.  Personally, I would rather have my future based on what I do with my money instead of handing in over to Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, that tax cheat Mr. Geithner, and most of all Barack Obama.

                        http://www.socialsecurity.org/sstw/sstw11-04-05.pdf

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The democrat party slammed the young people in this country with all that sound and fury against the privatization of Social Security.  So now 15&% of your annual income is put into a fund...that is broke to the tune of  more than US$60 TRILLIONS, and that estimate was as of a few years ago and is higher today.  Now if your over 60 years of age that numbe might not mean a thing...but if you are now making your SSI contributions at 20, 30, or even in your late 40's..lots of luck to ya. If the idiots in Congress did not kill the Bush plan, you would have been able to be in charge of some percentage, maybe half, of your annual donation to the United States Treasury. Particularly if you are one of those enthusiatic citizens of the Obamanation and believe our salvation is at hand...today..right now, would be the perfect time to start a long term investment program. You could be investing in gold you could be investing in a General Electric at close to $10 a share..a Cisco in the mid-teens,and on and on.  Even those who have lost 30-50% in their 401k still HAVE 50 to 70% of their money.  If I had been able to invest my own funds over the past thirty years I would be one happy camper right now in the midst of all this carnage.  Personally, I would rather have my future based on what I do with my money instead of handing in over to Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, that tax cheat Mr. Geithner, and most of all Barack Obama.

                       http://www.socialsecurity.org/sstw/sstw11-04-05.pdf

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TomPaine.com - Social Security Is Not In Crisiswww.tompaine.com/articles/social_security_is_not_in_crisis.php

Why would anyone want to change a system that works so well? The main reason is that President Bush and the financial industry have managed to convince people that Social Security is on the edge of bankruptcy. Millions of younger workers, and even many older workers, now believe that they will never see their Social Security checks.


......... The official numbers tell a very different story. The Social Security trustees' report shows that the program can pay all scheduled benefits through the year 2042, with no changes whatsoever. Even after 2042, the program would always be able to pay a higher benefit (in today’s dollars) than what retirees currently receive, although less than the full scheduled benefit

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The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office did an independent investigation of Social Security’s finances and came up with an even brighter picture. They found that it could pay all benefits through the year 2052 with no changes whatsoever. Furthermore, according to both sets of projections, the changes required to keep the program solvent through its entire 75-year planning period are smaller than the changes made in any of the decades from the 1950s to the 1980s.

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