came4U
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India was an agricultural society before Europeans arrived on the scene.
Again, misread.
I never said India or any other place wasn't an agri socieity I said..'before agriculture was big business'.
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BTW, ancient hunter gatherers typically didn't live past the age of 40
hunters and gatherers did not die by starvation, which is the topic. Their ability to reach a senior age is well documented, the middle age dead likely died from many causes: falls, poison, animal attack/confrontation, drowning etc.
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No, you're leaving out a host of reasons. Famines occurred because of wars, insect plagues, crop disease, crop mismanagement (due to lack of modern farming knowledge and practices), as well as the natural disaster you mentioned.
reminding you what the term 'etc' means. quote:
(freezing, hurricane etc)...
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Modern famines occur for exactly those same reasons; nothing has changed in that respect. What has changed is that we can largely control and regulate things like crop disease and insects.
Modern famines vs control of crops and disease ?? are apples and oranges on the topic of famine. Modern famine occurs, just not here where we do have the technology and excess access to materials to enhance crops. Not to mention if a crop does not survive (as on topic again) the same product can be found 20 miles away or less.
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agriculture was in place in your example India prior to European colonization.
of course it was, but again and again the topic is local access to any goods. What then used to be accessable by anyone passing through is no longer because lands are now corporate or privately owned. The only way to now step foot on such properties is to 1. work there as cheap labour or 2. get shot for tresspassing.
Anyway, back to topic. If any one group relies on ie: wheat that comes from across the country when it could as easily be grown and sold locally, it is one of the many ways to make a food source inaccessable in any emergency. This dependance itself is the evil ingenius onus of decision-makers. Any of numerous countries can sustain current status quo with their own resources (ie: Canada had our own wood, oil, water, can grow grapes, fruit etc). Agribusiness in itself (which includes all of the above) is not a necessary it is a ill-grounded dependance on the wrong systems in the wrong areas...again, to cause disorientation and dependance.
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What will be the next big problem suggested to be the demise of the American way of life? Fat kids?
btw, fat kidoz are the product of 1. parents who choose to have a 2 income household which then leaves children in the dust when it comes to being given carefully prepared healthy foods on a regular basis and 2. lazy, uneducated or uncaring parents (too busy to shop or cook properly) that chose to compromise their own children's health over selfish needs/wants. They don't just wake up for school one day obese. The fat molecules did not jump on them like a bully on the school bus. It is from being force-fed junk. Sugary, non-nutritional gooey junk!
So yeah, so in essence are right. The demise of our American life is at risk when we feed our own offspring garbage just to fill them up and shut them up. Never in history has any civilization purposely compromised their own future generations just to save a few minutes or because they were just plain overworked (by choice).
This is our future? I would gladly sacrifice the purchase of a gameboy if it meant not working an extra 15 hours of work that I could have spent feeding my ums a balanced breakfast, lunch and dinner.
< Message edited by came4U -- 2/13/2009 9:42:50 PM >
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