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Is it safe - 2/10/2009 11:05:24 AM   
nobleslave


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I bought 2 dog collars today in a dog shop for me to put my unowned slave tag on them.

One is like a metal chain which i will wear when i am out and in work ect And the other is a proper dog collar for wearing in the house.

My question is please is the normal one for wearing in the house safe to sleep with it on please.

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 11:16:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Depends on how you sleep, I imagine, and if you have given yourself enough space for your neck to expand and contract naturally. Golden rule I learned many years ago now is two fingers between the collar and your skin for how tight you should make it.


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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 11:30:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if it is realy safe or not, but I wouldn't take the chance. I tried once wear my Dog Collar to bed, but changed my mind afterwards. I was afraid something might happen in my sleep, and it wasn't worth the risk.


Thanks also Thetammyjo. I'll have to keep that in mind.

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 11:36:28 AM   
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As long as it's not too tight and it's not tied to anything, I don't see how it would be dangerous. If it's too tight, then you shouldn't be wearing it day or night.

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 11:41:43 AM   
nobleslave


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Status: offline 		Yeah its not tight at all i can put my two fingers between my skin and the collar. Thanks for the replys i just wanted to ask before i wear it tonight in bed just incase.

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 12:01:41 PM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		Would you wake up if you couldn't breath?  Is there anything in your bed it could get caught on?

With a couple inches of space, you should do fine unless you have something going on that would be a problem... like the chain is big and bulky and your spine rests differently than it should... for those with back issues.

I had one that wore a collar to bed with a lock and he had no issues but the collar was loose.  He would also wear a cat collar somewhere on cock and balls, which was not too tight, with a leash attached loosely and attached to a hook in the bed frame.  The only problem with that was in turning over quickly... he did get a few surprises, but nothing dangerous. hehe  But it did give a break from the chastity waking him repeatedly during the night.

Always make sure blood can circulate and you should be fine.  But remember.. if you have ever used an ace bandage (one of my favorite things... hehe) you typically bind it too tight before you get the hang of it. As in all things... try it before you plan to spend much time in it or doing it and test it, test it, test it. 

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 1:36:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ho Lockit, and Thanks for the idea. I never thought of a Cat Collar on my "Little Boy" and "Cookies" before. I'll have to try that one. I've use a Gates of Hell once, with a shoelace tied from that, to an Leather Ankle Strap. I got many suprises too, when I tried to straighten my leg.  YUMMY !

And maybe my Red Leather Dog Collare too.

Here Kitty, Kitty, Kitty Collar, sub BalletBob

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 2:05:04 PM   
Lockit


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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 3:18:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		The type of material used in the construction can make a difference in the long term comfort, especially if it gets wet or absorbs the oil from your body and hair.  Are you planning on taking it off to bathe and shower?  What is it made from?

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 4:08:02 PM   
nobleslave


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Status: offline 		Yeah i will be taking it off to bath or shower. Its made with leather with studs in it :)


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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 4:33:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, am I missing something? Why in the world would you want to wear a collar that has no meaning?? I'm lost here...

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 4:39:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

Ok, am I missing something? Why in the world would you want to wear a collar that has no meaning?? I'm lost here...


I think I am kind of with you on this one, CatdeMedici. My reaction isn't about the physical dangers of the collar - it's about the emotional and/or sensual aspect of wearing a collar/leash and how that should be saved for a relationship.  And coming from me - I'm not SUPER into the whole "symbolism" behind a collar and whatnot, I am just saying...I kind of lean toward wanting a guy who is experiencing his "firsts" with me, if he's green to BDSM, not that he already experienced it all -- alone!  The first time he feels the leather around his neck - while sleeping, no less - damn, that's gotta be for me. If he's already just used to it - and, on top of that, perhaps built up lots and lots of fantasies while doing it...yikes, then I have to compete with whatever was in his head.  No fun, either.

I know it's impossible and unrealistic.  But there's a part of me that really wishes some newer, younger sub guys would not do so MUCH self experimentation (alone and w/porn) only because it starts to solidify ideas, expectations, fantasies. I think surrender and submission should be more fluid and flexbile and depending on the woman. If a man is already really kind of programmed with his own fantasies and his own toys and his own sensations well before he meets a lady - he might have some habits.

I keep wanting to just grab this Irish boy and  -- well, you know -- spank some sense into him.  He's obviously cute, has personality, I'm sure has a fabulous accent, AND he can dance?  Don't corrupt yourself boy -- you are potentially a catch, just reel those fantasies in!

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RE: Is it safe - 2/10/2009 4:41:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		It has meaning to him. only he knows the meaning of it, but it obviously means something to him.

I think its sweet.

*waves to the OP*



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RE: Is it safe - 2/16/2009 2:10:31 PM   
nobleslave


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Status: offline 		Thank you so much for all the kind replys :)

I am alright and i have been wearing it every night. I have been sleeping well :)

Do you think tho that training you self up is a bad thing. Cause i found AAkasha comment really interesting should i leave it till i find my Mistress and let her train me up?

Thank you so much AAkasha for saying i am cute thats a really nice thing to say :)

And with me working out and eating right hopefully i will have a really good body aswell :)

Thank you
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RE: Is it safe - 2/16/2009 2:51:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

Ok, am I missing something? Why in the world would you want to wear a collar that has no meaning?? I'm lost here...


I think I am kind of with you on this one, CatdeMedici. My reaction isn't about the physical dangers of the collar - it's about the emotional and/or sensual aspect of wearing a collar/leash and how that should be saved for a relationship.  And coming from me - I'm not SUPER into the whole "symbolism" behind a collar and whatnot, I am just saying...I kind of lean toward wanting a guy who is experiencing his "firsts" with me, if he's green to BDSM, not that he already experienced it all -- alone!  The first time he feels the leather around his neck - while sleeping, no less - damn, that's gotta be for me. If he's already just used to it - and, on top of that, perhaps built up lots and lots of fantasies while doing it...yikes, then I have to compete with whatever was in his head.  No fun, either.

I know it's impossible and unrealistic.  But there's a part of me that really wishes some newer, younger sub guys would not do so MUCH self experimentation (alone and w/porn) only because it starts to solidify ideas, expectations, fantasies. I think surrender and submission should be more fluid and flexbile and depending on the woman. If a man is already really kind of programmed with his own fantasies and his own toys and his own sensations well before he meets a lady - he might have some habits.

I keep wanting to just grab this Irish boy and  -- well, you know -- spank some sense into him.  He's obviously cute, has personality, I'm sure has a fabulous accent, AND he can dance?  Don't corrupt yourself boy -- you are potentially a catch, just reel those fantasies in!

Akasha



I agree with you on this one Akasha!  Too much "self training" is not the way to go if you truly seeking a Domme to mold you the way she wants you. 

It takes too much time, maybe even more so than with someone who has experience because of involvment with a Domme/Mistress.  At least that training was at the hands of someone else rather than developing in your mind how you want things to go and then doing so.

My baby once self imposed chastity because of the fantasies in his head and found that it was not what he thought it would be without having someone to give that part of him to.  What the heck is the point in that?

Faye

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RE: Is it safe - 2/16/2009 3:09:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		That all depends on how you define what your symbols mean. A long while back I visited our local leather crafters to pick up a locking collar for play, but I found that I loved the feeling of something around my neck. For many months after I wore it almost every night since I found it helped me to sleep more deeply...it was just...comfortable. Part of that was a way to express my identity, and as a reminder of experiences with my play partners. I eventually ended up getting a metal and wood necklace to express this part of my identity in public. Nobody else knows what it means, but that doesn't matter.

I don't consider wearing a collar to bed to be training any more than wearing pants to work is training. I understand the romantic ideal behind a guy waiting until he's owned to have that on while sleeping, but at the same time there's a very real difference between wearing the collar...and wearing it with it locked on. Visiting my former Domme and being unable to remove my collar still created an emotional impact for both of us, despite the fact that I was used to wearing it. I haven't worn it now in a couple of months because it reminds me of the relationship that is now over, but when I've moved past that I fully suspect that I'll wear it again occasionally.

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RE: Is it safe - 2/17/2009 11:07:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		OP- If you are going to wear it to sleep I would advise leaving 3 fingers worth of space (sideways) between it and your neck. Your neck swells a bit as you sleep. Last thing you want is to be on the 11 o'clock news. "local man found dead in home...cause of death, his dog collar" 

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RE: Is it safe - 2/18/2009 4:03:15 AM   
LadyLou


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Status: offline 		I honestly wouldn't know if this is safe or not, you need to seek an authoritative answer.


But, my gut reaction is not only do you need to make generous allowances for your body/neck to expand and contract, but you need to make generous allowances for the material to expand and contract. Different leathers will have different thresholds in reaction to temperature, water, body oils and other environmental factors.


I always made sure that my dogs collar had a very generous gap on my German Shepherd. I would check it daily because I was paranoid about it. I took him to the beach one day, and he was messing about in the sea, catching his ball, etc. On the way home in the car he didn't seem right, and was wimpering, and getting fidgety with increasing desperation. I pulled over to see what was wrong, and it didn't take me long to figure out that his collar had contracted. I tried to put my fingers in between to check the gap – there was no gap. This was years ago, but it still sends shivers down my spine at what might of happened. I don't know if the salinity of the sea water made a difference or what, but after that my dog wore a collar no longer.


I suspect you are not likely to be running into the sea chasing balls lol, but you are correct in being concerned. Perhaps wearing it like a very loose necklace?

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RE: Is it safe - 3/7/2009 8:52:03 PM   
LPslittleclip


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Status: offline 		i have 2 collars. one is a more vanilla one a silver chain with a silver mickey style lock on it, and the other is a formal red leather one with a drop front to attach a lead to. both are safe for me to sleep in as the chain is loose and the leather formal collar has sufficient room as to not cause discomfort.

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