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DedicatedDom40 -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 1:36:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark One must assume from that premise, that stupidity is your preferred mindset....keep working, I am almost certain that you can achieve your version of nirvana....utter senselessness... I believe in you cory and know you can do it! I do believe that explains the affection that many had for that dingbat from the north woods. lol They believe smart people are too smart, so we must elect dumb ones to feel a kindred spirit.

NorthernGent -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 1:59:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: corysub Gitmo: Doesn't have a plan as to what he is going to do, but announces he will close Gitmo in a year but has no plan. Plan? Oh..that's a "distraction"... The plan is quite simple: he plans on closing the place down.

Coldwarrior57 -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:08:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: corysub quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark of course stupid people work so well cory?....lol...witness the past 8 years... Awww cumon.....that was only a jab....throw a punch! :) LOL roflmfao, did you call him out cory? Keep up the good fight.

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:25:32 PM)
Aww,isn't it cute to see two like minded individuals like Cory and Coldwarrior forming their own little mutual appreciation club.

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:26:53 PM)
quote: The plan is quite simple: he plans on closing the place down. NG, it's not that simple. I don't know if you're aware of how the federal prisons are here, but they will get sent to Florence, Colorado. I know folks have got caught up in the hysteria over Gitmo. But trust me, Gitmo is a resort compared to Florence. Prisoners are kept in their cells 23 hours a day. The cells are 7 feet by 12 feet rooms. The cells are equipped with a stainless steel toilet/sink combo unit. The bed is a poured cement slab, with a rubber mattress (it's thinner than your pillow.) They don't talk to anyone, but guards. The guards don't talk to them about anything unless they're giving them orders. The one hour they are allowed out, they go to a small concrete room where there is a basketball hoop and maybe a crude, iron exercise bike. They get a shower about once a week. I don't know about you, but I'll take waterboarding and female military personal making sexual suggestions over that any day you please. All these people that are demanding rights for these people have no fucking clue what the alternative is.

corysub -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:32:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: corysub Gitmo: Doesn't have a plan as to what he is going to do, but announces he will close Gitmo in a year but has no plan. Plan? Oh..that's a "distraction"... The plan is quite simple: he plans on closing the place down. Ohh...why the hell was I making such a big deal about Gitmo. Just close it down! What a great idea. Why didn't I think of that? Just one question...if I might. I understand there are approximatley 250 men being held against their will in Gitmo. According to some, including the former Captain of the Cole just today, these people represent the "hard core" of terrorists, the remainder having been sent back to their home countries. Ok...the Pres closes Gitmo....and...and than? Do we kill the prisoners there? Do we hold them for ransom? Do we send them to Illinois State Prison to live with a few ex-democrat Governors? Gosh, I missed that one....Hey.....lets just let them go! Bye Bye..go away bad men...and don't come back. Memo to self: Dear Diary Never in my wildest dreams would I think that I would be on the same page as Hillary Clinton. Obama is not ready for the Office of President. As Hillary told us, he is not ready on day one. He is already acting irrationally and out of control. This young, inexperienced President has never had to face the kind of criticism you get in the "cage fight" of Washington, D.C. Unlike Sarah Palin, I don't think he can take the pressure. I am afraid he is hiding in a freudian cloak of thinking he is running for office. Understandable, however, having never actually had a job. This can't be true but I heard on a blog that in the middle of the economic crisis that has our country in a tailspin and may never recover, Obama and the Misses went to a classroom for a few hours out of their day just to get out of the White House..and this after two weeks! I hope this is not my last entry diary. I'm afraid his entire staff is over their heads and someone out there might do something terrible in the midst of all this confusion. Ohh..some good news...Panetta does not have a tax problem....although he did make statements before the congressional hearing that he was forced to retract regarding torture during the Bush administration, saying that he has not actually seen CIA reports but only read about them in the "newspaper". Again..he does not have tax problems.

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:33:38 PM)
Ahh but slaveboy before they are placed in the Federal prison system they will first have to be tried and if found guilty sentenced to a determinate term of incarceration for some crime or another. At which point due process will have been served and most save bleeding hearts will have moved on.

NorthernGent -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:39:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: corysub Just one question...if I might. That it be. Anyway, why don't they just put them on trial or send them home? Slaveboy: whether or not those imprisoned are terrorists, is anyone's guess. I think the point is to maintain focus on a terrorist threat by keeping these people near the US - guilty, innocent or whatever.

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:48:07 PM)
OK Mike, I have a question. Where are we going to hold them pre-trial? You can't put them in general population, they'll get killed.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 2:48:31 PM)
Actually that was the fucked up corporatist thing, and it is in the Dem party as well. This is why so many no longer stand behind the Rep party, they lied. The Rep party deserves to taste ash, and maybe another party will come along and replace it. Some of the same warning signs I am seeing in the Dem party as well. Corporate America is running a lot, and I do not believe Obama will be able to change that tide because some pretty big Dems are in their pocket too. Just different pockets than the corporatist that were in power. I am hoping that since Obama is relatively new, he does not have as many markers to cash in, but there are a few things going against him. Someone can be a great person and still not do a good job as Pres, Jimmy Carter was a good example of that. I am still keeping my eyes open, but what I see does not show me that much is actually change internally with the government. Just a shift to where power is. quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 We tried the right-wingy thingy for 8 longs years.

Vendaval -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:04:06 PM)
Well cory, if you want to lower the bar here's a blog of the dumb shit stupid people do, like getting arrested for having sex with 2 blow-up dolls in a grocery store parking lot! " Geroge Bartusek, 51, was observed kissing and fondling blow-up dolls in the parking lot of a Publix grocery store, according to police in Cape Coral, FL. He was charged with breach of peace. The article does not state whether the dolls he allegedly got busy with were of the male or the female variety." http://blog.trutv.com/dumb_as_a_blog/dumb_criminals/index.html?cnn=yes quote: ORIGINAL: corysub ...However, you only lose money with bright people...

Vendaval -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:05:36 PM)
They would have to be housed in a separate area/wing of the prison. quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou OK Mike, I have a question. Where are we going to hold them pre-trial? You can't put them in general population, they'll get killed.

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:05:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou OK Mike, I have a question. Where are we going to hold them pre-trial? You can't put them in general population, they'll get killed. Sort of answered your own question there didn't you Slaveboy The Feds have been segregating prisoners for their own safety for years,this is nothing new.

SilverMark -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:10:22 PM)
In actuality I think they would end up in Terre Haute, Indiana....The 2 prisons are remarkably similar....and Terre Haute has one feature no other federal pen has.....

Vendaval -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:16:00 PM)
Silver Mark, is this to what you are referring? "There are two facilities at FCC Terre Haute: Federal Correctional Institution, Terre Haute; and United States Penitentiary, Terre Haute. USP Terre Haute is currently the home of the only death chamber for federal death penalty recipients in the United States, where they receive lethal injection. Among those most recently executed at USP Terre Haute were Timothy McVeigh and Juan Raul Garza in 2001, and Louis Jones, Jr. in 2003. McVeigh, who was convicted for his responsibility for the Oklahoma City bombing, was the first prisoner executed by the U.S. Government since the moratorium on the death penalty was lifted in 1976." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Correctional_Complex,_Terre_Haute

SilverMark -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:24:40 PM)
Yep....I read the Indianapolis paper everyday and there have been discussions about using the facillity there to house them and it happens to be The Place for such things.

Vendaval -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:27:15 PM)
Yes, that seems quite likely.

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:31:03 PM)
quote: Sort of answered your own question there didn't you Slaveboy The Feds have been segregating prisoners for their own safety for years,this is nothing new. Mike, they don't seperate this many at once generally. We don't have unlimited prison space for segregated prisoners awaiting trial. BTW, I'm curious how we try 'enemy combatants' when the war isn't over. Oh damn, I'm sorry. Our new POTUS says we aren't at war anymore. [8\|]

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 3:36:59 PM)
Come on slave boy this has been argued to death.They are either prisoners of war or they are terrorists....either way there is established steps to be taken in dealing with them.

rexrgisformidoni -> RE: Obama does the "Left" thing... (2/6/2009 4:53:57 PM)
I know how to deal with them....

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