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variation30 -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/22/2009 3:11:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

Yup all that "ohh well hes not really president is he" deary me some people have WAY too much time on their hands


I totally agree. like all those gun nuts who say something about the second amendment or those tax protestors! I mean seriously, get a life people. our govenment knows what they are doing so just take a chill pill and let them lead us!




variation30 -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/22/2009 3:15:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Well, Bush strove to trash the Constitution every chance he got.  I'm hoping Obama takes it more seriously.  At least he's known for his understanding of the law, unlike Bush, who was drunk and stoned during his college years.


obama is a constitutional law fellow right? for those who don't know what con law is, it is a study of supreme court decisions. for anyone who knows what the constitution says, they should know that the constitution says nothing of judicial review. so yeah, I don't think he is known for his knowledge of the constitution. if you'd like examples, I'd be more than happy to provide. I'll start with this: he's against conceal carry.

bush was horrible. mccain would've been horrible. obama's horrible. I just think that what we're going to lose due to obama's leadership will be worse than what we'd lose from mccain.




variation30 -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/22/2009 3:19:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

Actuall O'bama was not the first to have the vows done incorrectly.  There hahave been i think 4 presidents who had to redo the vows.  Just about every TV news has the list of the others who retook the vows. 

As for behind closed doors, if that where really true than none of us would be writing about it.   

If this is the first you have heard of this what cave have you been in, it has been on the news the second he was done with the vows on the 20th.

And to all those saying he was not President, because of the mistake, read the WHOLE document, not just the parts that support your POV.  He became President at noon on 20th, with or without the vows taking place.

AMENDMENT XX
Passed by Congress March 2, 1932. Ratified January 23, 1933.
Note: Article I, section 4, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of this amendment. In addition, a portion of the 12th amendment was superseded by section 3.
Section 1.
The terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

Section 2.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Section 4.
The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.
Section 5.
Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.
Section 6.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.


I may have read the constitution a few times. I've also checked all presidential succession acts. I had a thread on this political oddity but bitter, overweight women do not good moderators make. I've yet to see anything that said that the president elect becomes the president until he takes the oath (granting him execution of office article 2 section 1). so if he's late then it seems the line of succession goes through the presidential successon act...though that person has no power, just a title. I love fun little technicalities.




variation30 -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/22/2009 3:20:36 PM)

 
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

What's funny is if taking the oath precisely as specified in the US Constitution defined becoming President then GWB was never President since neither time he took the oath did he use exactly what was specified in the US Constitution. The same holds true for every President at least as far back as we have recordings of the oaths being administered..


if he didn't say it correcty (which I believe he did), then you're right.




DomKen -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/22/2009 4:45:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: variation30

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

What's funny is if taking the oath precisely as specified in the US Constitution defined becoming President then GWB was never President since neither time he took the oath did he use exactly what was specified in the US Constitution. The same holds true for every President at least as far back as we have recordings of the oaths being administered..


if he didn't say it correcty (which I believe he did), then you're right.


I just double checked. He didn't and if you actually checked you know he didn't as well.




hardbodysub -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/23/2009 7:48:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: colouredin

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ORIGINAL: PanthersMom

i'll bet they did it just to shut up folks like rush who'd be screaming about how he never really took the oath of office and some such crap.  got to dot the i's and cross your t's with folks like them.  i found it amusing when i watched it.
PM


Yup all that "ohh well hes not really president is he" deary me some people have WAY too much time on their hands


Time on their hands, fanaticism in their souls, and fungus in their brains.




Evility -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/24/2009 6:07:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: variation30
though I do think it's funny that no press was allowed in. the first ever behind-closed-doors presidential oath.


That's not really true. The oath has been administered on a number of occasions in private that were then followed by a public swearing in. The Constitution does not require press attendance anyway.




rulemylife -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/24/2009 7:48:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PanthersMom

i'll bet they did it just to shut up folks like rush who'd be screaming about how he never really took the oath of office and some such crap.  got to dot the i's and cross your t's with folks like them.  i found it amusing when i watched it.
PM


They already were.

Faux News was whining about it all day.

Probably why they felt it best to retake it, to shut up the idiots.




corysub -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/24/2009 1:59:32 PM)

I don't think Obama redoing his oath had anything to do with concerns over the bloggers.  I think it had everything to do with his sense of "Obama"...how history will hear the first black man being sworn in as President of the United States.  The second ceremony is probably the one we will hear in the "Obama Presidential Museum"....betcha!!

Of course Bidens stupid attempt at humor will be edited out....  It's going to be fun hanging on the Vice-Presidents words over the next four years.  Oh, and I would love to be a fly on the wall when Hillary gets her hissy fit over Biden trampling over her foreign affairs turf.  Biden better wear a cup every day he goes into work.  Hillary is gonna...you know....LOL 





Steponme73 -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/24/2009 4:17:14 PM)

You notice the second time he took the oath he did not use a bible....I wonder why?!   There had to be a reason.




kittinSol -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/24/2009 4:21:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Steponme73

You notice the second time he took the oath he did not use a bible....I wonder why?!   There had to be a reason.


Coz he's a moozlem. You know his name is Hussein right [8|] ?




DomKen -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/24/2009 4:23:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Steponme73

You notice the second time he took the oath he did not use a bible....I wonder why?!   There had to be a reason.

It could have been a simple over sight. It could have been that the President didn't want to get the Lincoln bible back out of storage at the Library of Congress, it is quite fragile, and chose not to dilute the signifigance of having used that bible. It could have been a matter that with the chaos of setting up the West Wing no bible was easily at hand and since the Constitution doesn't require one, and despite Beck's lies to the contrary, he wouldn't be the first President to take the oath without a bible it wasn't considered important.




wulfgarw -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/25/2009 7:08:50 AM)

I was under the impression that an oath of office was done before the inauguration ceremonies, as a precaution that if something happened at the ceremony like a assassination attempt, terrorism or a flat tire, he (or she) would be able to clear a bunch of legal hoops.




MarsBonfire -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/25/2009 12:30:02 PM)

It was done to shut up the "tinfoil hat" crowd of conspiracy theorists... funny, the GOP never whined about such things (like never actually doing the recount back in 2000) when their boy Bush was in question by a sizable fraction of the country.

Humm... it was done behind closed doors in secret? Then why are there photos of him doing it with Roberts pausing to put on his offical robe? Why are there several firsthand accounts of this happening? And above all, WHEN THE FUCK ARE YOU GOP ASSHATS GONNA SHUT UP AND HELP REPAIR THE DAMAGE?!




Truthiness -> RE: Obama retakes Oath of Office (1/25/2009 3:22:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

It was done to shut up the "tinfoil hat" crowd of conspiracy theorists... funny, the GOP never whined about such things (like never actually doing the recount back in 2000) when their boy Bush was in question by a sizable fraction of the country.


Haven't you figured it out yet?  Both "sides" are equally guilty of being fanatical about believing their own can "do no wrong" while villifying the other.  It's gotten absurd.

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 WHEN THE FUCK ARE YOU GOP ASSHATS GONNA SHUT UP AND HELP REPAIR THE DAMAGE?!


When are the liberal asshats gonna shut up and stop trying to push the blame off on others?  (Something both parties desperately need to do).




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