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CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Technology changing how you interact (1/12/2009 12:58:53 PM)

I think that any time you open up a formerly insular community in the way that electronic media have done with BDSM, you change the nature of that community. Until the rise of the internet, there may have been localized variations in how things were done, how situations were handled, how membership was managed, and how things like mentorship and training were described and enacted, but in general, the local groups were more tolerant of one another, if only because it really was a matter of "them against the world". There was a better grasp of privacy, which was a positive thing in that it protected those who wanted to be a part of this life but couldn't afford the scrutiny of their actions... but it had a down side as well, since predators were less likely to be exposed as such, except within the boundaries of a given local group... so if one wore out one's welcome in -one- group, then the only requirement was to insinuate oneself in a -different- group and start all over again.

The down side, for me, of the rapidly proliferating information stream for WIITWD (what it is that we do) is that we've lost much of our sense of community. If -anyone- is welcomed into a group, the sense of camaraderie diminishes, and arguments about different processes, concepts, and experiences become more prevalent. The other problem that I've seen as WIITWD has become more publicised and access has become easier is that there has been a persistent, if subtle, push to 'mainstream' WIITWD... to make it more palatable to those who are not as comfortable with great risks... to judge those who behave in a manner that the general society might find corrupt or distasteful... to marginalize those who choose something other than the 'safe', 'rational' approach to WIITWD.

On a positive note, the ability to find information has probably saved more than a few individuals from self-loathing and depression, giving them the opportunity to see that they are not alone in the things that they like. It has probably also saved more than a few individuals from permanent damage to their bodies and minds, by providing information on how to handle skills that, frankly, can be downright dangerous at times.

Overall, to me, it is a mixed bag. It's given me the chance to meet some wonderful people whom I probably wouldn't have gotten to know a decade ago... and it has given me the chance to educate my own young adults as they came of age and expressed interest and curiousity, and to do so in a way that I know will allow them to explore their own interests safely, and have respect for the wide variety of interests existing in the world. At the same time, because of what I prefer, I find that I am drifting further and further from the mainstream center of WIITWD, and establishing a place for myself on the new fringes of the 'fringe movement' that still tends to call itself BDSM, though it encompasses much more than that these days. I find that I'm not all that thrilled about the mainstreaming of my 'fringe culture', not just in WIITWD, but in other areas in which I've hovered on the cultural fringe of the world... but change is inevitable, and changes mean not only external changes in the culture, but changes and clarifications in oneself -- so whether or not we perceive it as a positive, negative, or neutral force, change happens, and one way or another, we must find a way to reconcile ourselves to it.




BondageBarbieX -> RE: Technology changing how you interact (1/12/2009 1:40:50 PM)

I hate messenger and rarely use it and.I am on the computer very little.I love my life in the real world.I am definitely not into anything cyberbased.




Maxwell67 -> RE: Technology changing how you interact (1/12/2009 2:57:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW
...At the same time, because of what I prefer, I find that I am drifting further and further from the mainstream center of WIITWD, and establishing a place for myself on the new fringes of the 'fringe movement' that still tends to call itself BDSM, though it encompasses much more than that these days. I find that I'm not all that thrilled about the mainstreaming of my 'fringe culture', not just in WIITWD, but in other areas in which I've hovered on the cultural fringe of the world... but change is inevitable, and changes mean not only external changes in the culture, but changes and clarifications in oneself -- so whether or not we perceive it as a positive, negative, or neutral force, change happens, and one way or another, we must find a way to reconcile ourselves to it.

I think this actually encapsulates something that many people are feeling both inside this community and in others.  It is funny how we have this feeling of ownership of concepts and practices that existed long before we came along, but nevertheless we do, and we feel violated somehow when someone else comes along and starts talking authoritatively about it in a way that demonstrates they do not have the same understanding we do.  In the arts, we come across this all the time, and most of us are reconciled to the idea that others will steal what we have created and tear it apart or turn it inside out and make something else from it, though it still burns us when they then package for consumption it as the same thing when it so obviously is not.

My point is, that we do not own ideas, nor practices, nor even the words we call a thing by.  That is just the way of it.  There is no such thing as "authentic."  It does not exist.  It is a marketing scheme used to perpetuate the idea that somewhere out there is a 'pure' form of whatever it is we are talking about.  Well, there isn't.  Everything is influenced by everything else.  If you absolutely must have a consistent perspective then you have two choices: either it is all unique or none of it is.




DavanKael -> RE: Technology changing how you interact (1/12/2009 3:11:30 PM)

Generally, I am rather fond of the various modes of communication we have available to us.  I have been on the 'net since 1996 and something that appealed then as does now is the lack of constraint or restrictions on what one can web search for, to whom one may speak, etc.  It is also a relatively anonymous medium unless folks choose to be other than anonymous. 
Texting has become one of the more recent modes of communication and I know that I adore receiving texts from and sending texts to my special other as well as to/from friends and family.  Additionally, I enjoy e-mail quite a bit as well.  That doesn't replace face to face interaction but it is a wonderful adjunct.
Also, the 'net has given me a wealth of information about sexuality in general (It is a genuine interest), bdsm specifically (As well as other topics).  I discovered CM several years ago while I was still in a marriage with a person who really didn't give a flying f*ck about my intersts or needs, so it was comforting and affirmational to know that there were others out there with interests similar to my own even though I wasn't involved in any community or group. 
So, generally, I am a big fan of the technological advances we have and of utilizing them to optimize our quality of life.  That having been said, I don't tend to upgrade my technology often and find my biggest 'problem solving' skill when the technology misbehaves is the 'off' button but it's still more of an asset than a liability in my universe. 
  Davan




ExSteelAgain -> RE: Technology changing how you interact (1/12/2009 3:18:54 PM)

I bet learned people in the 1800s were met with remarks saying all they did was read and write.




steviemichael -> RE: Technology changing how you interact (1/14/2009 12:25:02 PM)

i dont know your location but your location will soon be a major factor how you interact, from what i understand hear and read  the powers to be  are already on the forefront  censorship on what you can and cannot do,so directly those behind Technology will actually controling your senses !




LaTigresse -> RE: Technology changing how you interact (1/14/2009 12:58:18 PM)

I adore all of the new communication technology. It has allowed me to be able to communicate much more often with people I care about for much less money. My little sister and I text each other all the time. My little brother and I have a long phone chat about once a month. My kids and I talk on the phone every other day or so, and my son and I text one another daily.

I also worry less about the perils of getting stranded in 38 below zero temperatures on the side of the road out on the frozen tundra in the dark on my way home from work!![:'(]

No more long distance phone bills. No writers cramp or, in my case, guilt over not sitting down to write a letter.

As far as BDSM, since I don't make time to go to gatherings, the computer gives me a way to share brain waves with similar perverts.

It's all good.




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