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Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 4:47:45 PM   
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Well, in daylight tomorrow I have a task. My furnace is done with flex duct, not by me, by a licensed contractor. I could have routed steel ducts, and would have, but I didn't do the job.

Well for the second time now, I have to crawl up in the attic and reattach one of the ducts to a vent, and the proper repair appears to be duct tape, as that is what was used by the professional.

Built into the system of course is good reason to repair it promptly, being a cieling mounted duct system, it is allowing the cold air from the attic to drop and chill the room. This on top of the fact that a bunch of my money is going to heat uninsulated space.

So I will fix it properly tomorrow with the duct tape, but if it happens again I guess I will have to jury rig it with some real clamps, designed for the purpose. Some progress eh ?

I am reminded now of the 1992 Pontiac with the front fenders duct taped on. Actually that stuff is extra good duct tape, but it's still the same thing.

Some progress.

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 5:20:28 PM   
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You understand the problem. The "pros" are in too big of a hurry to bother with the proper clamps... they were probably getting paid by the job.

You can also use big zip ties, kind of like the ones the cops (ahem) use for handcuffs, but only much bigger, even specially made for that purpose.


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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 5:22:15 PM   
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I wish I could fix my trans with duct tape!!!

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 6:31:23 PM   
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You would make Red Green proud Term.

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 8:15:52 PM   
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       Duck tape is fantastic for damn near anything, except ducts.  Ironic, isn't it?  Use clamps, or you'll be back up there, trying to scrape away the residue of a failed "quick fix."

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 8:29:08 PM   
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... I miss paid my last heating bill. I thought it was an amount lower then on the bill.  today I was up in the bedroom, I put a sheet of foam over the one window.  ... stood up the pair of doors there that will never ever get installed.   put up plastic.  when the wind whips up over the river, it is quite cold.

..and of course it took 20 minutes to find my staple gun.  (or the 2)

anyhow that room faces the road- ..the new configuration should also make it abit quieter.



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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 8:31:51 PM   
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Duct tape is NOT what you use to seal ducts.

I know a man who does this for a living and I purchased my
supplies from him when I did duct work this year.

What you do is first place the inner core of the ducting
over the tube on the vent. Then you clamp the inner core
to the tube. Then you put the proper tape over that.

Then you pull the outer sleeve up higher over the tube.
Then you clamp that and then you tape it to seal it.

The clamps take the force, the tape makes the seal.

The tape is shiny and is avaliable at your home supply store.

I am sure there is somewhere on the net to get the proper name.

Good luck with the job.

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 8:37:48 PM   
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Yeah, you don't use duct tape.  Now they do have a type of tape that it is used by heating and air conditioning guys.  It's usually shiny looking, and it's thicker than duct tape.  It does resemble duct tape in size though. 

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 8:53:42 PM   
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       The heat cooks regular duck tape, even the pricy shit.  It breaks down into the components of plastic top, fibrous mesh, and the sticky goo dries up.  It falls apart. 

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 9:32:12 PM   
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Duct tape is like The Force.  It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 9:53:23 PM   
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Here you go;

This will verify what some of us have been saying.

http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/myths/duct_tape.html



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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 12/31/2008 9:56:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Duct tape is like The Force.  It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.




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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 3:57:36 AM   
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..well then.

so essentially what Term is saying insofar as his furnace goes..... is that




it is too big to fail.     



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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 8:54:52 AM   
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I have done some HVAC work, and I have never used duct tape except in repairing this thing, which I did not install.

On a gas furnace with induced draft I always use that metallic tape on the flue for very good reason. If the Bvent or chimney is clogged it needs to build up pressure to set off the sensor that will  keep it from igniting. Otherwise it could spew flue into the living space.

The one time I used tape was when I had to build a closed return system before central air was to be installed. The contractor wanted to  replace the furnace, which was preposterous. So I drew it up and faxed it to the tinner who made it, in sections of course. Well then it gets there they gave me plenty of drive clips, but  no S clips. I used the metallic stuff, but remember this was a return. It was fine.

Boy the things I saw when I was remodeling houses would put hair on your chest, curl it and take it off all in one fell swoop. Downright dangerous. Load bearing walls removed and plaster falling down on people, YES it was done that long ago. They "knew" what they were doing too, right where they removed the support they spead the plaster really thin so that when it cracked it wouldn't open up as much. Real pros. Holes left open in chimneys with nothing but some cheesey cheap paneling over them. I've seen flue pipes that were NEVER connected, of course right next to an old furnace install with open returns. I've seen in a commercial building where someone cheated putting in a grounded outlet, by connecting the ground to the neutral. Little did they know it was wired backwards and made the fridge hot. I've seen cutup extension cords in walls, also wired backwards TO GFI OUTLETS !. This makes a GFI outlet actually more dangerous than a regular outlet.

I have also come to the conclusion that my buddy Jack and I are the only ones in the city that are capable of properly installing a non-prehung door.

And those guys they show on TV selling windows, they make installation look so easy, well the way THEY do it is easy, and totally inadequate. Triple pane low E advanced glass developed by NASA and all that, but drafty all the way around, by some accounts draftier than the originals. When I install windows all the trim comes off and it is sealed. You close that window and you don't even know it's there except seeing it. I put in a sun porch that is literally ALL windows, double hung type, and even without a heating duct out there, in the winter when you walk into in you feel like you are walking inside. It is a tight installation. What these TV schmucks do usually saves you practically nothing unless your original windows were broken.

Why have such a perfect barrier with leaks all around it ?

And plumbing. To borrow a Jewish term Oy vey ! Your drain froze, you mean your trap froze ? Nope, trap's off. "Dude, there ain't supposed to be any water in the drain to freeze". That's why you need traps. I do some plumbing, but not all that much, so I am sure someone else can come up with some better stories. Heating and wiring though, I have some pretty good contenders.

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 10:22:40 AM   
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Have you tried the new gorilla duct tape?
 
Good stuff...
 
I`m like you...duct tape can fix about...anything =L=

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 10:30:04 AM   
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I'm not particularly fond of duct tape.  (Easy to break out of especially if the guy is cheap bastard and doesn't bother with a name brand...)
This tape, however, is well worth the money for home repairs.

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 10:54:18 AM   
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The cheap stuff purchased at box home stores is of pretty inferior quality. Don't expect much longevity out of it regardless of the application.

The good stuff, from my experience, is good. Pricey though, and not available at run of the mill consumer outlets.

When I put together the dust collection system in my workshop (woodworking) I paid the extra money for the good stuff. 11 years later and it is showing no signs of giving up the ghost. During installation, however, I ran just a little short on the good stuff, and in a pinch converted over to the cheap stuff. Most of those joints I've had to re-tape at least once and some of them several times.

This reminds me of a quote by Stephen King:

"If you don't have the time to do something right when are going to find the time to fix it?"

Uncle Nasty (wishing I could fix my hand and wrist with good duct tape)

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 6:48:24 PM   
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UN, you should be able to fix your hand with duct tape. You seem to have forgotten about it's companion, the coat hanger. Think of the possibilities, you could be better, stronger, faster. You could be the Six Dollar Man !

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 6:59:01 PM   
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Among the phrases you will never hear uttered in the South:

"Duct tape will NEVER fix that!"

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RE: Technological advance - duct tape - 1/1/2009 7:07:03 PM   
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next time i need a door installed i'm calling you Termy.  home despot did my front door.  never again. i'll beg my brother the carpenter to come and put the damn things in, maybe i can bribe him with potato salad. 
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