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lobodomslavery -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/21/2008 10:18:21 AM)

again i said isnt punishment inappropriate for adults, im not taking a hard line stance on the matter, if i did i would say punishment is definitely inappropriate for adults but i didnt do that because for one i cant speak for everyone and two it might be appropriate in different situations it depends, i just wanted to see what the view people had was thats all, its not at all about me
kevin



GreedyTop -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/21/2008 10:21:39 AM)

I didnt get that any really DID think it was about you, kevin.. in fact, all the replies I read (I may have missed a few) were people stating THEIR OWN opinions on what punishment was or was not, what it may or may not be for, and generally, I got the idea that nobody who has replied thinks punishment is inappropriate for adults.



lobodomslavery -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/21/2008 10:25:42 AM)

well im glad of that, because im just a facilitator nothing more. if you like a topics master, but thats a bit of a grand tite for me who is after all a servant
kevin



DesFIP -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/21/2008 11:26:02 AM)

If you show up late for work every day, you'll be punished by no raise, no promotion and no job as soon as they can replace you.

If you mistreat your family, the law will keep you away from them.

Yes, there is punishment for adults.

Beyond that, in a relationship, if you deliberately lie and hurt your partner you lose them. So if you aren't interested in a relationship with a punishment dynamic but enter it anyway, and then throw tantrums when the dynamic you agreed to is enforced, you lose your partner. Plus you should lose your own self respect for lying and cheating them out of time they could have had with someone who loved them as they are instead of seeing them as blow up dolls to support your own fantasies.

You don't like a punishment dynamic? Fine. Then be honest about that from the beginning. Adults speak honestly about what they do need and what they cannot deal with.



Lockit -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/21/2008 11:35:16 AM)

I am getting spanked hard for my punishment of not doing what needed to be done...myself! lol  This spank could add up to big dollars and at this point... I think I prefere some public correction!  The lesson learned... no frozen pipes if you do the job yourself... frozen pipes if you trust someone that says they did it! lol  Okay maybe they did... but dummy, you are supposed to plug the fuckers in! ROFL...

Between the two... I would take public punishment! But yes... adults do get punished in one way or another! lol



Kana -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/22/2008 5:02:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

So much talk about punishment of slaves, is it really just funishment at the end of the day, after all nobody gets a kick out of it and isnt punishment really inappropriate for adults
kevin



The episodic punishment thread.
When I do it, I have never once had a girl think punishment was "funishment."
There is zero fun about it, nor is it intended to be.
Its about behavioral modification.
Its about teaching her how best to serve me.
So no. Its not even remotely funishment.


I don't even like the term punishment. I prefer correction.
(That does sound kinda kinky in a sexy sort of way-Kana's House of Correction. Yum)



HypnoticShadow -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/22/2008 7:42:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

So much talk about punishment of slaves, is it really just funishment at the end of the day, after all nobody gets a kick out of it and isnt punishment really inappropriate for adults
kevin




Punishment is not meant to be enjoyable, if it is enjoyable it is not punishment and if there is a real issue then 'funishment' will not address it.

Adults are probably punished as much, if not more than, children are, and in my opinion it is no less appropriate. Jail is punishment, fines are punishment, getting chewed out by your boss is punishment, etc etc etc..

Also, you might want to start adding question marks to your questions, else people are probably going to see them as judgements.



LaTigresse -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/22/2008 7:48:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ItalianSMistress

WTF is up with you and all the punishment questions.......and if you think its not proper, why do you wanna keep talking about it???
 
Anyway, as I am sure anyone here will tell you there is a HUGE difference between acutally punishment for bad behavoir and "funishment" for playtime....
 
When I have to acually punish my slaves, they do not "get a kick out of it", they are generally upset that they have disappointed me......and I dont "get a kick out of it" either as I am usually annoyed that they misstepped or whatnot.....


Exactly. No punishment I come up with will ever be fun for the person on the receiving end. Guaranteed.

And yes, all too many adults need punishment. Unfortunately very few of them are consentual........[:D]

Lobodom, if you think there are no adults that really need punishment, then I assume you don't believe in our current system for dealing with criminals?



colouredin -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/22/2008 7:59:54 AM)

I think there are people who use the term punishment in the wrong context. Nope punishment shouldnt be fun never never its when you do something wrong, the punishment has to be something that instills the fact that it shouldnt be done again.

For me its like this, if i over step the boundries then im punished, im clearer on the boundries and my partner doesnt hold a grude, its out in the open its been dealt with and its over. Frigging fantastic when it works.

Of course adults need punishment, of all walks of life, often its the only way that people understand that what they have done is wrong. The punishment may not be official like it may be punishment when your partner walks out on you, punishment when your friend doesnt talk to you for a week. We all have our own ways of punishing people who do somethin wrong.



stella41b -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/22/2008 8:07:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

So much talk about punishment of slaves, is it really just funishment at the end of the day, after all nobody gets a kick out of it and isnt punishment really inappropriate for adults
kevin



Kevin would I be right in assuming that you're not a policeman or judge?



VampiresLair -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/22/2008 8:08:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

So much talk about punishment of slaves, is it really just funishment at the end of the day, after all nobody gets a kick out of it and isnt punishment really inappropriate for adults
kevin



Punishment is harsh correction for misbehaviour. It is not fun.
Sadistic and masochistic play is not punishment in our world, its playtime.
Punishment is absolutely appropriate for adults wishing to learn how to serve someone else. Correction is done with any learning, and punishment for extreme cases. Just because someone is an adult does not make them immune from wrong doing nor the consequences ther of.



IronBear -> RE: Is punishment really just funishment (12/22/2008 8:17:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

again i said isnt punishment inappropriate for adults, im not taking a hard line stance on the matter, if i did i would say punishment is definitely inappropriate for adults but i didnt do that because for one i cant speak for everyone and two it might be appropriate in different situations it depends, i just wanted to see what the view people had was thats all, its not at all about me
kevin



Kevin, whilst I understand what you are saying grasshopper, I will address the bolded segment only with an analogy.. Remember we are talking about adults. Now in different countries or even states, adulthood or the age of Majority/Manhood differs. Some young adults are surprisingly mature whilst others are late bloomers and are really children with an excess of testosterone and facial hair no mater their age. However let us address people who are legal adults and we, according to you perhaps shouldn’t punish them. If I follow your argument, no adult criminal will face the courts as incarcerating them is a form of punishment (deprivation of freedom). So a few of the non punishable adults go steel a car or gang rape some 18 year old gir, start whole selling hard drugs or kill rivals a;ll according to your view with impunity.. Seems to me grasshopper there is a huge imbalance there somewhere and where is the justice for the victims and their family and where is a sense of protection for the adult community unless we all become gun toting God/ess fearing citizens?   


Just interested in your rationale [;)]






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