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RE: Posessiveness - 12/20/2008 9:04:52 PM   
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I like C because he isn't the possessive, overbearing type. Yes, he loves and cares for me, but he doesn't flip his shit about what I do, doesn't call me insisting to know where I am, or just pull the general clingy stuff that irritates me so badly.

As far as micromanagement, he trusts to put my pants on right side up, expects me to act like myself and not a brainwashed nut, and is more than happy to enjoy spontaneity in our sex life.


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RE: Posessiveness - 12/20/2008 9:52:41 PM   
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Well a lot of thoughts Aquatic said mirror my own.  I am in actuality probably the least possessive person I know.  This is ironic given that I can be very materialistic.  There are very few things which I consider "mine, mine alone, always mine in this way."  Even ideas or moods or experiences I try to keep very much in the moment and flow of that time and not try to hold them beyond what they are, past or future.

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/20/2008 10:04:36 PM   
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Thanks for the responses.

I always find it interesting how people project different things into the word "possessive". It's just one of those trigger words.

1pos·ses·sive
Pronunciation:
\pə-ˈze-siv also -ˈse-\
Function:
adjective
Date:
15th century
1 : of, relating to, or constituting a word, a word group, or a grammatical case that denotes ownership or a relation analogous to ownership 2 : manifesting possession or the desire to own or dominate

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/20/2008 10:04:44 PM   
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This is an interesting contemplation. 
From the D-side of the kneel, I enjoyed feeling (And still do feel) that I posessed that person; that he was (And, in ways, will always be) Mine. 
I, too, enjoy, from the s- side of things, enjoy the idea and enjoyed the feeling of being posessed, in some ways.  I was attempting to explain the assertion that one to whom I behaved in submission made on repeated occasions regarding me  as "My (his) sandbox".  That's a rather complex little statement there but simple in ways as well.  The person to whom I was speaking thought it an affront to be referred to in such a fashion.  I disagreed; I enjoyed the assertion and what it, at the time, connoted. 
As with many things, though, I believe there is a continuum and it's not generally so simple or black and white as good or bad. 
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RE: Posessiveness - 12/20/2008 10:08:28 PM   
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I define possessiveness  by someone  wanting to control them and they do nothing they don't approve of or there'll be hell to pay. Or that their claws come out and  they are  ready to shred any one stupid enough to come close enough to even LOOK like they are thinking about  or trying to poach a partner. Or wanting someone him to spend every possible moment with them and nobody else. Not even family.Basically if their plans don't please you it's not happening. It's their way or the highway and you better get out of the way if you don't like that.

I'm not a sub or a slave, I am a switch. but not only no I wouldn't find what you describe  attractive but HELL FUCKING no. I wouldn't come anywhere near any one like that, since I  don't give a rip for being told what to do.

Possesivness can be unhealthy in my examples earlier.

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When it comes to my intimate relationships with women, I consider myself to be possessive. I get an erotic thrill from controlling women. It's in my nature to be controlling and something that got me in quite a lot of trouble with past attempts at egalatarian relationships. I've always had a tendecy to treat women who were intimate with me like they "belonged" to me. I like to tell them what to do. How to dress, walk, talk, act and fuck.

How do you define "possessiveness"?

As a dominant, do you consider yourself to be "possessive"?
As a slave or sub, do you consider your Master to be "possessive"? Is this a quality you find attractive? Are you attracted to a man who will actively treat you like his possession or propety? Would this be considered a "red flag" in dating?
Is "possessiveness" part of your dynamic? Is there a difference between being your Owner's "possession/property" and them being "possessive" of you?
How can "possessiveness" be "healthy" or "unhealthy"?


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RE: Posessiveness - 12/20/2008 10:09:28 PM   
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i find it to be a very attractive quality in a D.  when i'm in a relationship i enjoy feeling that i belong to Him.  i don't see anything unhealthy about it.  but that is something i enjoy and look for, and i have friends that say i am insane, insecure, etc.  i disagree...i just know what i want, what makes me happy, and i want to be a posession...and it is my life, so i think i should be able to give it to whomever i want to.....


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RE: Posessiveness - 12/21/2008 7:44:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
I always find it interesting how people project different things into the word "possessive". It's just one of those trigger words.


I was thinking something similar last night when reading this thread.  For some words the connotations of them don't really resemble the literal definition.

As far as being possessive in the literal sense, the desire to own or dominate, he is very possessive.  One of the ways that he demonstrates his possession, specifically of Alandra, is by giving her to someone else to please (yes, that it usually in a sexual nature).

I find this aspect very attractive.  I am much more fulfilled in a relationship with this than without.  However, I would not be fulfilled in a relationship where I was expected to be possessive.  So thankfully, the dominance is not a two way street in our family.

As with many things, I think the motivation behind a behavior or desire plays a part in whether it is healthy or not. 

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/21/2008 9:51:08 AM   
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FR, before I read the rest.
 
I am possessive of my sub/s.  Not possessive as in "s/he is not to interact with anyone else" but possessive as in s/he is mine and I want to care for and watch over her/him.
 
I think I am possessive in a healthy manner.  I want them to be happy and healthy and have wonderful relationships with others.  And I want them to know they are mine and that I am always paying close attention to them.
 
This is not just about those who I am in romantic relationships with.  I am this way with my play mates as well.  I am concerned about them, their care of themselves, their relationships.  Of course, they are my friends, and I am possessive of my friends in the same manner.

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/22/2008 8:34:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

FR, before I read the rest.
 
I am possessive of my sub/s.  Not possessive as in "s/he is not to interact with anyone else" but possessive as in s/he is mine and I want to care for and watch over her/him.
 
I think I am possessive in a healthy manner.  I want them to be happy and healthy and have wonderful relationships with others.  And I want them to know they are mine and that I am always paying close attention to them.
 
This is not just about those who I am in romantic relationships with.  I am this way with my play mates as well.  I am concerned about them, their care of themselves, their relationships.  Of course, they are my friends, and I am possessive of my friends in the same manner.


Well, you just saved me from having to type a longer reply. Thanks :)




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RE: Posessiveness - 12/22/2008 9:17:39 AM   
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Truth be known, I'm probably more protective then possessive. I regard what is mine as mine and yet under the right circumstances and the right people, I will share. I call a girl "Mine" because that is what she is, my property no play on semantics can change that. I can get very possessive at times which is based on subconscious fear, having been shafted a few times when I trusted someone and lost possessions it had taken me years to gather, thus on that basis I work everything with the view that as long as i can move it myself and don't need a warehouse to store it, I can physically defend my possessions (non human or animal) With my wife and slaves, I follow the oriental philosophy "If you own a bird, set it free and if it is really yours it will return". It just so happens that my "birds" are the hairy variety and not the feathered ones.. 

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/22/2008 9:28:17 AM   
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quote:

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How can "possessiveness" be "healthy" or "unhealthy"?


Good question. In my mind, possessiveness slays the entire dynamic when it comes from a needy state, or a raging lack of esteem. If it's really about possession and not succoring some sense of personal inferiority or unjustified paranoia, it's more positive.

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/22/2008 11:52:55 AM   
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i think this is another one of those "to each his own threads" but to me, i think Master is possessive/protective and i enjoy that aspect of His personality. But i think there is a huge difference between possessive/protective and jealous rage. He is possessive and protective over me because He wants the best for me, and will do everything in His power to make sure that happens. my favorite word to hear is mine... especially during the heat of the moment.. and on the other side of the coin, i am possessive of Him as well, we belong to each other.

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/22/2008 6:27:12 PM   
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I like to think of my partner as my possession sometimes (she's married, so it can't really be all the time...)

But that's not what I think of as being "possessive"...(though it says as much in the definition.)

"Possessive" I tend to link with insecurity and jealousy somewhat.

This kind of possessive is kind of hard to understand or explain.

For example, I consider myself at least somewhat possessive in that I don't want my partner sleeping with others or even dating others. That's possessive.

On the other hand, my current partner is married.
So in this instance, I am definitely sharing.
And in the past I have done in minor ways something like the kind of sharing that kyraofMists mentions in her post.

One thing I've noted as significant is that the feeling of being in control of the situation makes me more apt to consider sharing, at least in the kind of example that kyra gives.

Or to look at it another way, I see my possessiveness largely fueled by the "fear of the unknown" factor. In my current situation, my partner's husband is such a known quantity that I don't feel that same sort of possessiveness regarding she and he that I might towards someone I didn't know so well.


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RE: Posessiveness - 12/22/2008 7:20:19 PM   
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I am my Sirs',   he is my Sir.

When we were first together, he was way more watchful of me in public. Now, i know where the boundries are, and he is less possessive. I no longer have to be right at his side - i can be in another room, talking to others.

It makes me feel warm inside - and down south - when he exibits possessive behaviour - i feel cared for, and cared about.  So yes - i like it when my Sir is possessive.

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/23/2008 12:27:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

When it comes to my intimate relationships with women, I consider myself to be possessive. I get an erotic thrill from controlling women. It's in my nature to be controlling and something that got me in quite a lot of trouble with past attempts at egalatarian relationships. I've always had a tendecy to treat women who were intimate with me like they "belonged" to me. I like to tell them what to do. How to dress, walk, talk, act and fuck.
  I agree with this overall.  I am not into micromanagement so I don't want to be telling my partner what to wear each day but in all honesty, what dominant has not spent at least a little time telling their submissive what styles of clothing they like to see on their partner, how they expect them to speak (in my case, courteously), what manner of speech they prefer (intelligent and civil and romantic and nasty...all at the appropriate time), how they expect them to behave around family, friends, at the club in terms of expression and display of the D/s dynamic that exists?  If that is possessive, along with the control in other areas...and given your definition of "possessiveness" you use later, it is...then I am possessive.

quote:

How do you define "possessiveness"?
As a dominant, do you consider yourself to be "possessive"?
I define possessiveness...in a healthy way...as wanting to control my partner, wanting to be their owner, putting boundaries in place and expecting them to be followed.  I want their heart and their mind and their romantic love to be mine, though their body might be shared with another.  As sabis noted about her dominant, I don't mind sharing but if they are mine, then I expect their heart-loyalty and their mind-loyalty to belong to me.  Does that mean they cannot care about another?  No.  But caring about another, for another...even loving another...is different than being "in love" with another.  When romance comes into play or someone trying to alter the mindset that I have set up, then I would have a problem with that.

As a slave or sub, do you consider your Master to be "possessive"? Is this a quality you find attractive? Are you attracted to a man who will actively treat you like his possession or propety? Would this be considered a "red flag" in dating?
Is "possessiveness" part of your dynamic? Is there a difference between being your Owner's "possession/property" and them being "possessive" of you?
How can "possessiveness" be "healthy" or "unhealthy"?


It has been in every dynamic I have been in, whether it was a conventional relationship or a D/s relationship or a combination romantic-D/s relationship.  It gets unhealthy when it is used to cover insecurity or to micromanage someone who did not sign up for micromanagement or to change the base core of the relationship that both agreed to and are trying to build.  Tis a fine line...expression of what you feel about someone else's involvement elsewhere can well be a sign of possessiveness in a healthy and growing manner or it can be a sign of jealousy or it can be a sign of insecurity or it can be a dominant/submissive laying out their feelings about something that they can see as a problem down the road if the involvement grows or, if it has not begun to grow, as an impediment to it growing.  All you can do in these cases is communicate and, when your partner-potential partner-friend is trying to communicate with you, try to give their viewpoint the same consideration you would expect of your own from them.

kyra noted that one of the ways that Knight shows his possession of Alandra is by giving her to someone else to please.  I don't imagine that point came about without a great deal of communication and understanding of the motivations and thoughts and concerns of both Knight and alandra. 

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/23/2008 3:05:56 PM   
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Master is possessive of me but in a good way, example a few weeks ago the weather was nasty and he calls and tells me to be safe because no one is alot to hurt his slave expect him
Master is not OVER possessive which i think is bad

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RE: Posessiveness - 12/23/2008 5:52:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bratnwranglers

i think this is another one of those "to each his own threads" but to me, i think Master is possessive/protective and i enjoy that aspect of His personality. But i think there is a huge difference between possessive/protective and jealous rage. He is possessive and protective over me because He wants the best for me, and will do everything in His power to make sure that happens. my favorite word to hear is mine... especially during the heat of the moment.. and on the other side of the coin, i am possessive of Him as well, we belong to each other.


I honestly don't think that I could but it any better than that.  I just want what's best for her. 


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RE: Posessiveness - 12/23/2008 6:25:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear
"If you own a bird, set it free and if it is really yours it will return".


This idea trumps whatever kinds of possessiveness I may feel.
I'd rather my partner be apart from me and happy than with me and unhappy.

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