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RE: Coming around again. - 12/18/2008 11:03:01 AM   
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Do you know what he's invested?

I'm not attached to M in the same way he is to me. If I moved off, he'd be sad.....if HE moved off I'd be devastated. My world would be rocked in a way that his wouldn't be.

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I have absolutely no idea what he has invested, if anything.
 
At this point i would not be devastated if he didn't want to see me again. I however don't want to get to that point where i would be if he wouldn't be and he does leave.

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RE: Coming around again. - 12/18/2008 11:06:01 AM   
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Then you are second guessing him.  Ask him, talk to him, but don't make the decision for him.  Make it for yourself sure, but without communicating to him, it's not fair to him and it won't be fair to anyone else you do it to either, in the future.
 
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RE: Coming around again. - 12/18/2008 11:10:56 AM   
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At this point i would not be devastated if he didn't want to see me again. I however don't want to get to that point where i would be if he wouldn't be and he does leave.


Just a thought ... you may be trying to control what is uncontrollable here.  Being emotionally 'out there' is risky and can be painful.  You have to figure out if it's worth being hurt to find the relationship which will hold the emotional connection you desire (if you do desire it). 

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RE: Coming around again. - 12/18/2008 11:13:18 AM   
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Then you are second guessing him.  Ask him, talk to him, but don't make the decision for him.  Make it for yourself sure, but without communicating to him, it's not fair to him and it won't be fair to anyone else you do it to either, in the future.
 
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Would you believe i daren't.
I'm afraid of the answer.
I'm such a wimp.

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RE: Coming around again. - 12/18/2008 11:23:07 AM   
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Would you believe i daren't.
I'm afraid of the answer.
I'm such a wimp.


So the question you should be asking yourself is - Am I afraid to ask because a)I might not like the answer and it might end the relationship or b)I am scared of opening myself up.
 
It might be both a and b, but one of those is more important to you overall - yourself, or him.  If it's him, then it just means you are already emotionally vulnerable and the relationship is worth the risk and you need to stop second guessing.  If it's you, then I know that some people might come down on me for this but meh, it's all in the perception hey... then you haven't submitted to him and the relationship isn't one of a dominant and slave or sadist and masochist one.  It's a non power exchange relationship with a bit of kink/spice/bdsm thrown in.  You need to decide what it is you want from a relationship.  Do you want a master, or do you want a play partner?
 
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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 8:21:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation
Would you believe i daren't.
I'm afraid of the answer.
I'm such a wimp.


So the question you should be asking yourself is - Am I afraid to ask because a)I might not like the answer and it might end the relationship or b)I am scared of opening myself up.
 
It might be both a and b, but one of those is more important to you overall - yourself, or him.  If it's him, then it just means you are already emotionally vulnerable and the relationship is worth the risk and you need to stop second guessing.  If it's you, then I know that some people might come down on me for this but meh, it's all in the perception hey... then you haven't submitted to him and the relationship isn't one of a dominant and slave or sadist and masochist one.  It's a non power exchange relationship with a bit of kink/spice/bdsm thrown in.  You need to decide what it is you want from a relationship.  Do you want a master, or do you want a play partner?
 
the.dark.
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The answer would be both a and b. I'm not sure which is more important to be honest and i have been thinking on it.
I want a Master but have this conflicting feeling of i am only worthy of or capable of having a play partner at the moment.
Truthully i think i'm mega confused
 

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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 10:15:34 AM   
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Perhaps the fact that you are able to ask the question, means that you are ready for the answer...

Nothing worth having is without risk.  Go forth and submit! 

EDITED to add:

A thought occurred that part of submission can be giving over your heart as well.  Clearly there are dynamics where this is part of the equation.  I am in one.  Maybe your heart is telling you that it is time for you to seek that out as well?


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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 11:28:01 AM   
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Understandable...
 
WELL fine! If a beatin` is what ya want...come on over! =L=
 
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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 11:29:05 AM   
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I know... I know...
 
Its a LONG...swim...

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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 2:19:23 PM   
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It may not be confusion as much as fear of things not working out..so you do not let anyone in close enough if they try to push it into commitment you will find a way to screw it up or you choose partners who you do not have to commit to a 100% eg married men or those who seeking primarily a play partner as they are safe they will never force a total commitment from you.

I have become an expert at  I was hurt very much in the past ..and it affect my ability to trust..when I am with someone I allow a lot of negative thoughts come into head, I go into relationships not wanting to allow myself to get too emotionally involving  believing they will more than likely let me down. or are not sincere in what they say, other issue for me is I walked out of one relationship with nothing more than I could carry in my arms, another relationship  I bought the ex out but in the process put myself through a few years a real financial hardship. I have finally got to the point I was no longer struggling, I have managed to achieve quite a bit on my own and I am proud of the fact I managed to buy and furnish my own home,  that I started a business in the downstairs,  that I have a couple vehicles in the driveway...and it pleases me to see how far I have came on my own merit and hard work... part my fears comes from giving the things I have achieved up as well as possibly me job ... and recently a Dom called me on it.. and in his own way being brutally honest with me..and asked my if I would rather be alone..or am I ready to make a commitment....because I also have lung cancer and the 5 year or greater survival rate is only 16% ..he warned me ...that he may very be my last shot at a D/s relationship...he is willing to accepted me as is, he is willing to spoil me in exchange for my services, and take of me if things get worse later, and accepts that I may have limits on the type of play I can handle since what want mostly for me will be sexual service he will get a housekeeper/cook to do the domestic service,  he wants not only the D/s relationship but he wants me to be his wife as well..but he does not want me judging him by the actions of others and he does not want me to continue playing cat and mouse because I am afraid of commitment..he is not expecting me to make the 100% commitment in one shot but he want to know I am willing to forward rather than 3 steps forward and then retreat 2 pr 3 steps back ..he does not want to feel he has to drag me or coax me along the whole way if that is the way it is too continue than he will walk ..it is my choice

.. he knows that I am ill and will have a long recovery and that it is too early for us to live together for my recovery   and since my parents are likely going to be caring for me in their home a month or 2  so  that I will need to introduce him to the family before the surgery..since he wants to feel comfortable visiting me at the hospital or at my parents home.  he also laid out a rough timetable of how he would the relationship to proceed over the next year with the goal being to be married and living together by the end.

Has my doubts and anxieties disappeared???  no  ..they are still there but not as intense especially after he laid out the goals and expectations and we talk about  .. and I do acknowledge he is right and accept it will be up to me to push myself beyond me own fears and I am learning to catch myself as i feel myself trying to pull away  ..he has no problems hearing out my concerns  and he accepts with all my health issues that  I will have extra worries and fears and that I need someone to talk to and even cry with and is willing to make the time for me when I need to talk. 




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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 2:29:08 PM   
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The answer would be both a and b. I'm not sure which is more important to be honest and i have been thinking on it.
I want a Master but have this conflicting feeling of i am only worthy of or capable of having a play partner at the moment.
Truthully i think i'm mega confused
 


Honestly?  You have two options.  You either let this relationship continue as it is and place no expectation on it and just be yourself.  Or you end this relationship and don't start another until you learn to love yourself in the sense that you understand just how worthy you are and that you deserve the best - whatever the best is to you.  You are so scared that people won't love you for who you are, you end up trying to control and gain the authority.  Love and get to know yourself first before anything else.
 
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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 2:34:23 PM   
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We all realise that nothing stays the same, therefore if we are willing to play the game we should expect it to come around again

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RE: Coming around again. - 12/19/2008 8:33:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
Honestly?  You have two options.  You either let this relationship continue as it is and place no expectation on it and just be yourself.  Or you end this relationship and don't start another until you learn to love yourself in the sense that you understand just how worthy you are and that you deserve the best - whatever the best is to you.  You are so scared that people won't love you for who you are, you end up trying to control and gain the authority.  Love and get to know yourself first before anything else.
 
the.dark.


I just had to say ... really terrific post with great, caring advice. 

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RE: Coming around again. - 12/20/2008 12:09:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

[In the future, don't have expectations.  Have goals instead.
 
the.dark.


Bloody good point if I may say so.

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