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MakeMeSmile4U -> Returning from subspace (12/12/2008 10:47:14 PM)
I tried to search this and didnt really find what I was looking for... I'm hoping one (or more) of you can help. A close friend (really, I swear lol) told me about a disturbing event that took place recently. She went into subspace just as she always does with her Master. And then she 'returned' from subspace, just as she always does.... The problem is, she hadnt really returned. He thought she did: She was coherent, speaking normally, acting as if she had come down from subspace, etc and they parted ways. When she truly returned she had already driven 30 miles from her starting point, remembered nothing and was confused as all hell. This is a couple who have been together for over 3 years. Needless to say, this really scared both of them silly. Hell, it scared me and I wasnt even there. I dont have to point out the dangerous implications of this, but it obviously could have turned out badly. So, to finally get to my questions: Has this ever happened to you? And do you know of any way to ensure something like this doesn't happen again?

StrongSpirit -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 8:35:32 AM)
I think that she likely did return from subspace but then went BACK into subspace when she started driving. Have you ever started driving a route you've done a lot and suddenly realize you have arrived with no/little memory of the trip? Or started driving to X, but ended up going halfway to work/home on 'autopilot'? Same thing. Driving is hypnotic. It allows your higher mental functions to wander. But you only go 'autopilot' when starting out on a route that you are familiar with. If you take a new route each time, you won't go into it.

NuevaVida -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 8:46:33 AM)
Yes, I have thought I was out of my "sub space trance" before and then once I got up and started doing things I realized how spaced out I still was. With my former owner there were times I would have a 2 hour drive after an intense afternoon together. Following such activity I would nap a bit and then get as many shots of espresso as I could handle, for the drive home, mixed in with a sweet coffee drink. The sugar and caffeine would snap me out of it enough to make it home safely, and then I would take another nap. Sometimes he had some pretty abrupt (harsh) ways of snapping me out of that frame of mind, too. Wasn't fun, but did the trick. While just lying around you can believe you are A-Okay to go, but as soon as you become mobile and active - blood flows faster, breathing elevates - you realize you're still in La La Land...for me, anyway.

DesFIP -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 9:49:06 AM)
And that's why we stopped playing on the last day of a visit. Simply because of the difficulty of driving, and the bad subdrop once I made it home.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 10:41:07 AM)
Another great example of how sometimes subspace can go "bad" and how it's not always peaches n cream (and another example of how people always forget that post scene is as much a part of playing as DURING the actual play)- not because of the subspace itself but just because things can go bad and altered headspaces are not rational and can be overwhelming at times. It's not uncommon, as you can read above. But why the desire to not have it happen again? Now that they know what is going on and what's a possibility, they can simply be prepared for it next time.

DesFIP -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 10:54:59 AM)
I never found a way to play and then get in the car and still have any energy left when I got home. If she does, good for her. For me, it always required more strength to focus than I had.

LadyPact -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 11:19:02 AM)
It's not unique to sub space. This can happen to those of us on the other side, too. In fact, any time I know that I'm going to play out of town, I always have a back up plan of getting a hotel and staying over. The reason is that there is a possibility that I will be too far in space to make the drive home safely. Believe Me, none of you want Me on the road when My endorphins are still buzzing. The reason for not wanting it seems rather simple to Me. When the endorphins are still way up there, I am not the safest person behind the wheel of a car. That's just the way it is. I can't tell you how many times My husband and I have had the agreement of him driving to an event and Me driving home deal fall through because I was not fit to drive. Not to mention, should I get pulled over for something, it would be fun explaining to a police officer exactly why My pupils were small, eyes glazed over, but I wasn't into some kind of substance of some kind.

aravain -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 11:49:25 AM)
I've never driven after subspace or any equivalence... however I do occasionally have a similar problem that results from anger (just in general). So far, when I'm angry enough I know I'm going to a)lose chunks of time (which usually fuels the anger) b)start acting strangely (I'm not sure if it's endorphins or whatever, but I do get a 'high' from it not unlike the high I get when I smoke) c) do 'normal' things and not remember because I do them on 'autopilot' (as has been mentioned already in this thread). The easiest way to make it not happen... is to not be angry. I would expect it would be a similar answer for your friend :( maybe not a happy one though.

MisterMonster -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 11:58:30 AM)
What's subspace?

mummyman321 -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 12:06:42 PM)
Subspace is that wonderful euphoric feeling subs expeirence during play. For some it is very intense and for desciption purposed can be compared to a alcohol/drug high.

MisterMonster -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 12:14:17 PM)
Do they block out the experience? Or, does it heighten everything?

mummyman321 -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 12:25:29 PM)
The experience for me is very hightened. For the play I do it becomes hard for me to tell pain from pleasure. Its almost like staying in an acheived state of orgasm. All outside items are mentally block out such as how long has it been, is it night or day etc.

SassySarijane -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 12:28:08 PM)
For me it's an altered reality and euphoric high. Usually I lose some memory and others are heightened and time seems to pass differently. It all depends on how deep I go.

MisterMonster -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 12:29:33 PM)
Ok...if they blocked out the experience I wasn't sure if I would like this 'subspace'...if the Master wants to be a dick, is there anyway to snap a sub/slave out of it?

DMFParadox -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 12:45:54 PM)
I've had this happen to my girls once or twice. The best bet is to make sure you've got enough time with them afterwards to let them back up into their normal headspace easily. It's very tempting to play right up until the end, because it feels more poignant to both people. The 'leave 'em wanting more' playbook, it's from. There are times when that can work, but for the most part, don't torture a girl for at least a few hours before she has to drive home. A day, if it's over a longer time span. It also occurs to me that this particular couple, having been together for a while, might be stretching the sub's mental processes in new ways. As with repeated hypnosis, it might be worth investigating what her new reactions are and how they can be best trained to serve both her and him.

DesFIP -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 2:36:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MisterMonster Ok...if they blocked out the experience I wasn't sure if I would like this 'subspace'...if the Master wants to be a dick, is there anyway to snap a sub/slave out of it? Snapping someone out has the strong likelihood of them winding up with sub drop, an extremely unpleasant temporary depression that can last several days. Better if you just don't let them go there to begin with. He doesn't like it when I space because then I'm not reacting to him. So spacing for me comes at the end when he leaves be bound, with a blanket on, to float until I switch over to sleep. But the easiest way to keep someone from going there is to keep talking to them. As long as you have to talk, you can't really go into deep space. But before you start playing with people, you really ought to search out threads on subspace, topspace, subdrop and aftercare. Because if you screw up, it's the bottom who will pay for it and she may well never agree to see you again.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 3:49:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP As long as you have to talk, you can't really go into deep space. I would disagree with that. But I agree that the questioner should do a search and learn more about the variables involved in play and the possible consequences.

came4U -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/13/2008 3:53:11 PM)
With that type of person I'd suggest they only play when a sleepover is an option, or a cab.

myotherself -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/14/2008 2:43:04 AM)
I can go into subspace relatively easily, but after years of having this happen I know what to do to minimise any negative side-effects. I love sub-space - the feeling of being a bit drunk and silly and giggly and the pleasure on the Dom's face as we cuddle and chat and come back round. But I won't play the same day I have to drive. I need a lot of sleep to get through it. I also need contact from the Dom for several days afterwards to ward off too much sub-drop. I have had Doms try to stop me getting there, but to be honest once I'm past a certain point there's not stopping me!

SlaveIndigochild -> RE: Returning from subspace (12/14/2008 1:23:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MakeMeSmile4U I tried to search this and didnt really find what I was looking for... I'm hoping one (or more) of you can help. A close friend (really, I swear lol) told me about a disturbing event that took place recently. She went into subspace just as she always does with her Master. And then she 'returned' from subspace, just as she always does.... The problem is, she hadnt really returned. He thought she did: She was coherent, speaking normally, acting as if she had come down from subspace, etc and they parted ways. When she truly returned she had already driven 30 miles from her starting point, remembered nothing and was confused as all hell. This is a couple who have been together for over 3 years. Needless to say, this really scared both of them silly. Hell, it scared me and I wasnt even there. I dont have to point out the dangerous implications of this, but it obviously could have turned out badly. So, to finally get to my questions: Has this ever happened to you? And do you know of any way to ensure something like this doesn't happen again? This question about has this ever happened to you? It's like when people ask me about the '60's....yes i was really there but just don't remember most of it......

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