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Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/10/2008 7:39:52 PM   
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the good news is - that the US has had no terrorist attack since the 700bln dollar bail out.  We will kiss the feet of the smart planners.   This article is a well laid out piece as to where we are at-


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A future out of control, bankrupt financial institutions trying to hold on, limitation on credit severely limits ability of the economy to start up again, debt totally embraces our lives, handouts a state secret, soon cash infusions wont work for banks anymore, banks hold too much toxic garbage to even know if they are solvent
this is a good read.

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We are now 17 months into a credit crisis that continues to expose the corruption and incompetence of government, banking, Wall Street and transnational corporations. The situation has not stabilized and it won’t anytime soon. All we see are sweetheart deals for elitist corporations for which American taxpayers will pay for years to come. The future of our nation is totally out of control. For the last eight years our economy has been running on something for nothing, lies and deceit. The result will be hyperinflation and then the Second Great Depression.
As we predicted long ago the only avenue open to the elitists that control our country is to hyper-inflate to avoid collapse as long as possible. In this process financial institutions, most of whom are bankrupt, are trying with the help of the American taxpayer, to hold on. In that process they are severely limiting credit, which restricts business and growth and has caused crippling de-leveraging in our economy, particularly among hedge funds. Debt totally embraces our lives and finally we see de-leveraging among individuals as all debtors and borrowers come under pressured from the lenders. While this transpires relentlessly, unemployment grows stamping out the buying power of the masses many of whom already are on the edge of bankruptcy. We have this great mass of disintegration on the bottom and massive amounts of money and credit on the top. The money and credit is not reaching consumers who have been forced to stop buying. It is staying on the balance sheets of banks, brokerage houses, insurance companies and transnational conglomerates, such as G.E.

. The response of government has been a massive distribution of taxpayer funds....   to read it go here->

http://theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Hyperinflation_and_then_The_Second_Great_Depression     /snip

so gold to rise in possibly 2 weeks, much heavier shoes to drop on the other bad paper and we will reach a point where the printing press wont work. 

I see we are the richest country in the history of the planet, the best and the brightest!!!   Lordy it is woefully hard to be humble!
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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/11/2008 9:52:18 AM   
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As an FYI- the link didn't work.

I think this guy's on the right track.  There's kind of a news blackout on what's happened to the massive amount of money that got dumped into the financial industry and still credit remains tight for consumers and small businesses.

The best analogy I can come up with to the current economy is a perpetual motion machine.  It's been that way for at least two decades- along with the mantra that we don't need manufacturing and we can get rich on financial services.  All perpetual motion machines are eventually proved hoaxes- this is by far the largest one ever.

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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/11/2008 10:29:53 AM   
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quote:

continues to expose the corruption and incompetence of government, banking, Wall Street and transnational corporations.


Corruption ... yes. Incompetence is questionable. After all they (bankers, corporations and government officials) got away (so far) with grand theft unseen in history of mankind.

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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/11/2008 10:55:43 AM   
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Hmm- interesting point.

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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/11/2008 11:14:24 AM   
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US reminds Russia in 1990-ies: people in power and unrestrained coroprations took most of the wealth while "little guy" was left in dust. It ended with Putin led KGB junta taking over; gangsters who joined totalitarianism maintained their position. Will we expect similar turn in US?

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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/11/2008 12:51:23 PM   
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Harry Truman's observation was that in the 1920s, rich Italian businessmen put a front guy in power called Mussolini- in the 1930s, Japan's wealthy folks put Tojo in power, and in Germany- the front guy (who ultimately proved the most uncontrollable of the three) was Adolf Hitler.  Truman called the secret cabal of wealthy folks who put front guys up in the US....Republicans.  Seemed only fair- the Republican campaign slogan was that you could vote for a Republican....or a Communist.  I guess we could shake out one of three ways-
1)  Fascism
2) Kleptocracy
3)  Working Democracy

My vote is for #3, but I have to admit, I'm not sure it's the likeliest outcome if there is a global depression.

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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/11/2008 7:53:14 PM   
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Well, you know I have been screaming about the coming "Depression" for a long time.
"Hyperinflation" is a plausible theory, among many other theories.
All the theories in the world, can't seem to stop this ball that is rolling down the track. 

Everyday I hear about more and more layoffs.
Bank of America will be laying off 35,000 during the next several years.
You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to think this is only going to be a "recession".
 

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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/11/2008 10:18:09 PM   
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Actually the inflation, whether hyper or not is going to be caused by government action, just because credit hasn't loosened up for a few weeks doesn't mean it is not going to. It must to keep the status quo.

It will be the same old song and dance again, nothing will change. They need good quarterly numbers, long term gains are not comprehended by leaders nor appreciated by the followers.

Then as usual, about a year into a depression they might admit it, but not that it was their fault. Sound familiar ?

T

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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/12/2008 12:58:43 AM   
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quote:

  It's been that way for at least two decades- along with the mantra that we don't need manufacturing and we can get rich on financial services.  All perpetual motion machines are eventually proved hoaxes- this is by far the largest one ever.



And you and I both know that's absolute nonsense.  The only true way the country can right itself and become wealthy again, is through manufacturing. When you produce finished goods from raw materials you're creating real, sustainable wealth from the ground up....

Financial services/ A service-only-economy or whatever you wanna call it, is merely a secondary economy, which creates nothing. Its just a paper swindle.

This crapy philosophy that the CFR is spouting about the continuation of a symbiotic relationship between the slave-labor nation-state of China providing the brawn and the United States providing the brain, only leads to the eventuality of a two-and-a-half tiered society where the bulk of people will make-up a very poor working class, with a very small mercantile/middle-class in-between, that acts as a buffer between the poor and the super, super wealthy. It will be nothing like the vaunted middle-class this country knows right now. At this point, what made America so great, is shrinking in a huge way.

For the life of me.....I can't believe folks just won't use their noggin before they buy into this trash.






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RE: Hyperinflation and then The Second Great Depression - 12/12/2008 6:20:19 AM   
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http://theinternationalforecaster.com/

find the peice here.  It is a good read that cuts the razzle dazzle out of the matter.

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