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LadyEllen -> counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 2:35:26 PM)
There was a huge seizure of counterfeit designer goods in Birmingham (England, that is) today - six million pounds worth even though its counterfeit - had it been the real thing then it would have been worth about three times that. The man was on telling us that even though this stuff was cheaper than the genuine article, it was overpriced for what it is. I can go with this. What I cant go with is the claim that this stuff is shoddy rubbish - they said this after admitting calling in experts from the designer manufacturers to identify the stuff as counterfeit, and they couldnt necessarily tell the fakes from the genuine articles. What I also cant go with is the idea that these goods are costing the taxpayer money - on the grounds that the makers and retailers arent paying tax on their operation; this seems to be an open admission by the man that he cant do his job or is allowing the market traders who put the stuff out off lightly with audits and the like. And if we're not and never would get the tax money, how are we missing it and so how is it costing us? But the biggest thing I cant get my head around is the announcement that this trade in counterfeit goods finances drug dealing. If I'm "Mrs Big" in drug dealing, what the heck do I want mucking about with counterfeit designer goods? Can anyone explain these things to me? E

RealityLicks -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 2:41:42 PM)
Yes.

celticlord2112 -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 2:42:05 PM)
quote: But the biggest thing I cant get my head around is the announcement that this trade in counterfeit goods finances drug dealing. If I'm "Mrs Big" in drug dealing, what the heck do I want mucking about with counterfeit designer goods? If you're Mrs Big, you don't. If you're Mrs. I-hope-to-be-big, you might dabble to raise some illicit seed capital.

Politesub53 -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 3:03:19 PM)
Of course these good are costing the taxpayer money, in tax avoidance. The problem is the high cost of manpower involved tracking these fraudsters down. As for the money being used to finance drug deals, many of the crooks involved in the Brinksmat case used money made to finance drug deals. Several of them served time for drugs since being released for stealing and or smelting the gold. So yes, cash made from crime finances more crime ect ect.

camille65 -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 3:35:12 PM)
I bought a fake Rolex in Shanghai for $11.00, it looked amazing but only worked for a month. Its in a drawer somewhere lol.

Aneirin -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 3:58:45 PM)
My thought is why bother buying fake designer stuff, as if you are on an income as to make you buy fake stuff, no one is going to believe what you have is the genuine article. If perchance you did have the genuine article most people believe it is fake anyway, why bother. Personally I avoid all this stuff, designer names do zilch for me, why be like everyone else. The other thing is taste, just because it has a designer name, it is not to say the item is a design icon, just the product of people who have the right connections. I don't like it, fake or real, I won't buy it But the counterfeit trade has to be tackled, I don't care about the designer stuff, that is of no concern, but I do care about counterfeit aircraft parts and medications to indicate the extreme, but on a more homely level, counterfeit vehicle parts, in particular items that are of a life conserving capacity, like brake parts. Believe me, I have come across counterfeit brake shoes, the kind that when they get hot, the braking material whatever it is comes unstuck from the shoe backing, the glue used being not good enough and that braking material parts company and follows the drum. The result, loss of brakes. Something that might concern you Lady E, I have heard counterfeit vehicle parts are big in the transport trade. Stuff clothing and jewellery designers, they can sort their own problems out, but I am all for the tracking and stopping of counterfeit peddlars who peddle life conserving fakes. Beware the cheap back street motor repairer, you just have to ask why so cheap, I hope they are not cutting corners of inadequate parts. But saying that, I have used a cheap back street motor repairer on a regular basis, but always, I supplied the parts.

tweedydaddy -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 5:51:14 PM)
They also finance international terrorism, slave trafficking, britney spears, whaling, cholestorol and damp crisps. I know, I saw it on an advert for FACT at the start of a pirate video. This is part of the great sport of leading the public by the nose. Most fake designer clothes are made in the same sweatshops as the real ones, which are almost always less well made. It's a simplistic viewpoint fed to the public to keep the gullible in line. The media are so easy to hype up, they eagerly peddle this drivel. Drug dealers wouldn't be seen dead in fake designer gear. Our revered Home Secretary trying to rope in the Women's Institute to locate trafficked prostitutes cracks me up. I think she must have watched Miss Marple while high on confiscated crack.

YourhandMyAss -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 7:54:44 PM)
For me, I am such a penny pincher, I'd buy knock offs or look alikes even if I had thoughsands of dollars. I see no point in spending that much on a purse. And for me it'd never matter if any one believed my purse was real, it'd be for my enjoyment of an items that's similar, and tons cheaper. quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin My thought is why bother buying fake designer stuff, as if you are on an income as to make you buy fake stuff, no one is going to believe what you have is the genuine article. If perchance you did have the genuine article most people believe it is fake anyway, why bother. Personally I avoid all this stuff, designer names do zilch for me, why be like everyone else. The other thing is taste, just because it has a designer name, it is not to say the item is a design icon, just the product of people who have the right connections. I don't like it, fake or real, I won't buy it But the counterfeit trade has to be tackled, I don't care about the designer stuff, that is of no concern, but I do care about counterfeit aircraft parts and medications to indicate the extreme, but on a more homely level, counterfeit vehicle parts, in particular items that are of a life conserving capacity, like brake parts. Believe me, I have come across counterfeit brake shoes, the kind that when they get hot, the braking material whatever it is comes unstuck from the shoe backing, the glue used being not good enough and that braking material parts company and follows the drum. The result, loss of brakes. Something that might concern you Lady E, I have heard counterfeit vehicle parts are big in the transport trade. Stuff clothing and jewellery designers, they can sort their own problems out, but I am all for the tracking and stopping of counterfeit peddlars who peddle life conserving fakes. Beware the cheap back street motor repairer, you just have to ask why so cheap, I hope they are not cutting corners of inadequate parts. But saying that, I have used a cheap back street motor repairer on a regular basis, but always, I supplied the parts.

BbwCanaDomme -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/2/2008 8:28:06 PM)
Knockoffs just make me incredibly angry. There's a reason the orginals cost so much. A lot of effort goes into the design, and they aren't massproduced to the level that department store brands are. Blah. If you can't afford designers, don't buy designers. A lot of the knockoffs are especially awful in that they don't even put the right fake lable on the fake bag. When I was in NY last I saw a Fendi design with a D&G lable and it broke my heart.

piratecommander -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/3/2008 2:41:33 AM)
Anything financing Britney Spears should be a capital offence. (I suspect your reverence for our Home Secretary to be counterfeit and therefore likely to be a superior quality piece of thinking) Why is it that people wear their clothes with the labels on the outside anyway ? Is it so the rest of us can tell the real from the fake ? (double entendre purely intentional) Pirate

Aneirin -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/3/2008 3:49:29 AM)
Yes, labels on the outside of garments, I have been known to remove them if I was unfortunate enough to aquire said garments. Honestly the only thing I have that has an external label is the New Rocks, but they aren't exactly designer.

BbwCanaDomme -> RE: counterfeit designer goods? (12/3/2008 4:00:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: piratecommander Anything financing Britney Spears should be a capital offence. (I suspect your reverence for our Home Secretary to be counterfeit and therefore likely to be a superior quality piece of thinking) Why is it that people wear their clothes with the labels on the outside anyway ? Is it so the rest of us can tell the real from the fake ? (double entendre purely intentional) Pirate Status thing. Actually most of the super obvious labels on designer clothing mean they're fake. It's part of the reason a lot of people stopped buying Chanel bags/glasses, the knockoffs became so prevalent that no one believed when people had real ones. Also, wearing tons of labels is an effective way of making sure people target you when looking for someone to rob. Darwinism is fun.

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