maybemaybenot
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If folks really listened to his acceptance speech, he was laying the foundation to not quite deliver on his promises. IE: when he said this was just the beginning, that to bring change we all needed to work with him and it may take more than 4 years, and a few other things. Yet his entire campaign was based on " Change Now ".
If you really listened to him and not to the mass media clips he never said "Change Now" -- he said we needed a change. Change can be "no", change can be ongoing, but it certainly isn't doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result -- that's called insanity.
Sorry, " Change Now" should not have been in quotes, I wasn't attributing it to him directly. Those are my words/interpretation of his Change campaign, having nothing to do with any media source. Maybe it's because he didn't realize the enormity of things, could be anything. When he began his rise to Presidency, things weren't as grim. Hence, IMO, the disqualifier.
In ever speech of his he has always said it will take work, hard work, and he has said he believes that Americans are capable of doing that hard work.
Yes, he most certainly did. I agree. What was new on the eve of Nov 4th, was the addition of : " it may take more than 4 years to accomplish change" < that is a paraphrase> IMO, that is a disqualifier of previous promises/retoric.
If any voter actually thinks the President can snap his fingers and make things happen, not only do they need to get some refresher government courses but they need to have their head checked. Presidents and Presidential candidates always make big claims, and why shouldn't they when often those who attempt to be realistic never make it beyond the primaries? You, the voter, have to do your own work to figure out what is and is not possible. One of those realism checks is that we do not toss out the previous government and build everything from scratch. Everything builds up or attempts to counter previous adminstrations, Congresses, and Courts. That takes work and time.
Again, agreed. That is why it is so amazing to me that his so many of his supporters are expecting him to work miracles, for a lack of a better word. That is not an Obama thing, that is a Presidential thing. Any President has much less power to fullfill their ideas/promises than is generally thought.
To believe otherwise shows the foolishness not of the speakers who will exaggerate but of the listeners who are not willing or able to understand that.
Agreed again. I speak more to what I call the blind followers who actually believe any President, but in this case Obama, can work the miracles they profess during a campaign
And as I have said much like SilverMark. I hope he succeeds in turning things around, time will tell. And no matter who ran or won this election, they were inheriting a mess that will take monsterous steps to begin to make a dent in things.
He has a tough road ahead of him, and it looks like it is not going to turn around anytime soon. There just isn't a magic bullet.
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