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Satyr6406 -> President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 6:27:51 PM)
I was sitting at home, trying to enjoy an entire afternoon and evening of football when it was interrupted by a 46 minute interview of President-Elect Obama. Firstly, he struck me - as he always has - as being very confident, well spoken, and self-assured. All terrific qualities. I can say that he seems to me like a decent, likeable guy. Also, I felt a genuine affection between himself and his wife; something I don't think we've really had since King George I and his wife. It was the typical "fluff piece" that CBS usually serves up to Democratic candidates but, It wasn't entirely without merit. I did get the sense that President-Elect Obama's message has been a bit amended. I got the impression that we've gone from "Yes, we can" to "Well, we might be able to but, it's going to take a lot of doing." One thing that I found interesting: I'm assuming that when the President-Elect said: "I will close Guantanamo Bay" he was referring to the detainees that are being kept there and NOT referring to surrendering our position in Cuba. So, on that subject: What to do with the detainees? There are at least a few that have absolute ties to terrorist organizations. Do we just release them? As we've argued for years; there is no authority to hear these cases. Are we going to "invent" a new justice system to deal with this? I can't say I'm optomistic but, I got the sense that even the President-Elect is not as optomistic as he once was.

MzMia -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 6:33:57 PM)
I was sitting here waiting for this topic, bout time! [sm=discipline.gif] I thought the interview was wonderful, President elect and Mrs. Obama were wonderful, in fact I laughed at several things Mrs. Obama said. {When she was talking about Barack washing dishes and the crappy apartment he had in D.C.} I thought what President-elect Obama said about the state of the economy was dead on. He said our country is in the worse shape it has been in, in 70 years.

slvemike4u -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 6:56:28 PM)
MzMia I too enjoyed completely the interview,the give and take between our President elect and his first lady was indeed touching. Satyr I will agree the emphasis of the interview was decidedly "soft" though I would stress he is the PE and not as of yet a sitting President.As to Guantanamo,I do believe it is safe to say he was talking about the detention center and not the Naval base.Your concerns about what to do post closing brings to mind Lincoln's adage concerning slavery ,he likened the Nation to a man who had a tiger by the tail....no longer wanting to hold on,but at the same time afraid to let go of his hold.we as a nation can surely come up with something better than a legal black hole to deal with those that are truly dangerous while at the same time removing the stain from our Nation.

TheHeretic -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 6:57:10 PM)
Just about to come on, Pacific time. Thanks for the heads up.

MzMia -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 7:15:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Just about to come on, Pacific time. Thanks for the heads up. I taped it, let me know what you think Rich. I am hoping to get you Obamarized. [;)]

painpup -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 7:23:26 PM)
60minutes isn't what it used to be but then again the rest of the country i love isn't either as Nader said NO I WILL NOT

JackHammer2000 -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 7:51:08 PM)
I saw about a minute of it before I had to switch channels. I want that minute of my life back. That was a typical fluff piece by Barack Obama's Public Relations group (aka the mainstream media). Welcome to the Church of Obama. Keep your eyes shut tight, your ears plugged up and just worship and follow.

slvemike4u -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 8:01:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JackHammer2000 I saw about a minute of it before I had to switch channels. I want that minute of my life back. That was a typical fluff piece by Barack Obama's Public Relations group (aka the mainstream media). Welcome to the Church of Obama. Keep your eyes shut tight, your ears plugged up and just worship and follow. And you could discern all that from one minute,must be nice to bring an open mind to the table heh.

TheHeretic -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 8:45:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia let me know what you think Rich. I am hoping to get you Obamarized. Not too likely, Mia. I am a conservative, and will remain the loyal, but open-minded, opposition. I appreciated his tip of the hat to Reagan, when talking about going with what works. There was a particular moment when he discussed, in passing fashion, making doing the dishes a soothing experience, when he couldn't get out of doing them. I respect that kind of outlook.

MzMia -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/16/2008 8:49:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia let me know what you think Rich. I am hoping to get you Obamarized. Not too likely, Mia. I am a conservative, and will remain the loyal, but open-minded, opposition. I appreciated his tip of the hat to Reagan, when talking about going with what works. There was a particular moment when he discussed, in passing fashion, making doing the dishes a soothing experience, when he couldn't get out of doing them. I respect that kind of outlook. For some reason Rich, I get the feeling that Michelle is not a "submissive" woman. I also get the feeling that Barack enjoys that . [:D] hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

Evility -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 4:03:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Satyr6406 I did get the sense that President-Elect Obama's message has been a bit amended. I got the impression that we've gone from "Yes, we can" to "Well, we might be able to but, it's going to take a lot of doing." Not even two weeks after the election and still more than two months to inauguration and this guy is already changing his tune. Gee, what a surprise.

SilverMark -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 4:58:16 AM)
People do not run for President due to a lack of confidence but, the enormity of the job ahead must be daunting. If there must be some changes in a time frame for some of the parts of Obama's agenda is that really changing tunes or is it just the truth as seen by the man who has taken a job that is larger and more complex due to the times? Who nows Evility, it might even be intellectual honesty that tempers his judgment? Not that I think I will see much empathy for him by those who do not like him or believe in his abilities,time will tell.

pahunkboy -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 5:16:06 AM)
Oh PUleassssssssssssse. What possible new info was verbalized? What? He is a pompous pronouncementizer- DR feel good. remember that when you starve to death and roving mobs of angry people invade your neighborhood. Oprah will regret pushing this globalist on us. feeling good is not a breakfast sandwhich. the chinese are pulling the plug on supporting our lazy asses.

SilverMark -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 5:22:42 AM)
lol....I am sure pahunk it is a global conspiracy....that only those who own the Lyndon Larouche decoder ring can figure out....

maybemaybenot -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 5:43:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark People do not run for President due to a lack of confidence but, the enormity of the job ahead must be daunting. If there must be some changes in a time frame for some of the parts of Obama's agenda is that really changing tunes or is it just the truth as seen by the man who has taken a job that is larger and more complex due to the times? . If folks really listened to his acceptance speech, he was laying the foundation to not quite deliver on his promises. IE: when he said this was just the beginning, that to bring change we all needed to work with him and it may take more than 4 years, and a few other things. Yet his entire campaign was based on " Change Now ". I certainly hope the job isn't more daunting or larger and more complex than he anticipated. But if it is, how come he didn't figure this out during his campaign, yet becomes astutely aware within weeks of winning the election ? I dare say that a man of his intellect didn't just realize this in a few short weeks. It's called changing your tune. No surprises here, he is no different than any of his predecesors. mbmbn

SilverMark -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 5:54:34 AM)
I am certain he understands the position he is to fill, IMO, the complexity of the mess he finds might have even be deeper than those that are informed understood. Between the time he started his campaign until today look at the frail shape of our country in so many ways. I believe he will carry on as he planned and adapt where he has to do so. To believe that he hasn't seen things a little differently since he won, would be a bit nieve and I do not believe he is that. As I finished my comment the first time....time will tell... To pre-judge performance is indeed unfair....but, it is the position he put himself into, and he will have the opportunity to prove a lot of people wrong or correct over time. I think I will reserve total judment until after he takes office...

thetammyjo -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 6:01:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark People do not run for President due to a lack of confidence but, the enormity of the job ahead must be daunting. If there must be some changes in a time frame for some of the parts of Obama's agenda is that really changing tunes or is it just the truth as seen by the man who has taken a job that is larger and more complex due to the times? . If folks really listened to his acceptance speech, he was laying the foundation to not quite deliver on his promises. IE: when he said this was just the beginning, that to bring change we all needed to work with him and it may take more than 4 years, and a few other things. Yet his entire campaign was based on " Change Now ". If you really listened to him and not to the mass media clips he never said "Change Now" -- he said we needed a change. Change can be "no", change can be ongoing, but it certainly isn't doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result -- that's called insanity. In ever speech of his he has always said it will take work, hard work, and he has said he believes that Americans are capable of doing that hard work. If any voter actually thinks the President can snap his fingers and make things happen, not only do they need to get some refresher government courses but they need to have their head checked. Presidents and Presidential candidates always make big claims, and why shouldn't they when often those who attempt to be realistic never make it beyond the primaries? You, the voter, have to do your own work to figure out what is and is not possible. One of those realism checks is that we do not toss out the previous government and build everything from scratch. Everything builds up or attempts to counter previous adminstrations, Congresses, and Courts. That takes work and time. To believe otherwise shows the foolishness not of the speakers who will exaggerate but of the listeners who are not willing or able to understand that.

pahunkboy -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 6:24:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark lol....I am sure pahunk it is a global conspiracy....that only those who own the Lyndon Larouche decoder ring can figure out.... larouche is on par with Ron Paul. which of larouches ideas is a bad plan for the country? And I mean the larouche of the past 3 years. Not from the 80s. The man thinks thoughts that are not the thoughts of the grid. specifically what idea of his is bad for our nation state?

TheHeretic -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 6:59:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy specifically what idea of his is bad for our nation state? That a lunatic should be allowed to run the asylum?

pahunkboy -> RE: President-Elect Obama on "60 Minutes" (11/17/2008 7:02:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy specifically what idea of his is bad for our nation state? That a lunatic should be allowed to run the asylum? that and $3 will get you on Americas Mag lev New York to LA train. if he had any influence we would have mag lev. 300 miles an hour. we dont have any of that in the practical appliaction, and when was the last time you took a train???? his mode is one of legacy. what specific idea of his do you disagree with?

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