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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/21/2008 11:07:12 AM   
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bling will be of more value-= no doubt.  Gold is up $52.20 right now.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/21/2008 11:53:09 AM   
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To be totally honest, I have no idea what the price of either gold or silver was several years ago versus now. I do know that I have not bought much of anything, jewelry wise, in the last year because of prices.

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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!

Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/21/2008 11:56:31 AM   
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there is a huge spread between paper gold and gold you hold in hand.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/21/2008 11:58:59 AM   
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Oh most certainly. And, it's not like I am selling any of it.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/22/2008 6:16:47 AM   
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the paper market is more "fixed" then I thought. 

consider that gold and silver up on Friday- same as the stock market.  

in theory a falling market should mean a rising precious metals cost.

I am not too kean on paper gold/silver.

cash and carry.      gee.   cash and carry.... there was a day when that was common practice.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/23/2008 2:51:07 PM   
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http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9A02E6D7163EEE34BC4952DFB6678388679FDE&oref=slogin      oh man.  this says alot over todays deal.  1863, and still relevant!   must read.   Rothschild piece.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/25/2008 10:22:07 PM   
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Things like finance being "the instinct of their race" and implications of Jewish conspiracy, went out a long time ago. Same goes with the surprise about receiving money invested in the Jewish ghetto.

If you want to look at an old example of boom/bust, check out Tulip Mania.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/26/2008 4:51:50 AM   
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It is hard to see the future for gold and silver. What would be the reason for gold and silver to gain even more value? As the currency is not backed by metals, market may have have already pumped up the price. It may be time to sell gold and silver. Does anybody know how many countries actually back their currency with gold reserve?
Valuable company stock in my view is much better choice of investment.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 11/26/2008 9:50:33 AM   
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OMG, silver wheaton  SLW is up 15% today!

fool.com did a peice where they figure the silver tons the own amounts to $1  AN OUNCE  ....   notice Voltcker is now on some new govt obama commission...  under his reigm int rates went up to 21%

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 12/3/2008 1:47:16 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPCQpACCuA   COMEX  being busted.  2 min update. usual delivery is 1%...   however this month 39% have asked for delievery/

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 12/6/2008 4:47:22 PM   
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YOU MUST WAIT 60 DAYS FROM THE TIME YOUR CHECK CLEARS BEFORE CHECKING THE STATUS OF YOUR ORDER. IT IS NOT OK TO CALL AND CHECK STATUS OF ORDERS ON THE PHONE!!! IF YOU NEED

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from a bullion site above.



Here is the fundamental difference between the monetary metal, gold, and other commodities. Backwardation will pull in stocks from the moon as it were, if need be. The cure for the backwardation of any commodity is more backwardation. For gold, there is no cure. Backwardation in gold is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon: it is a reminder of the incurable pathology of paper money. It dramatizes the decay of the regime of irredeemable currency. It can only get worse. As confidence in the value of fiat money is a fragile thing, it will not get better. It depicts the paper dollar as Humpty Dumpty who sat on a wall and had a great fall and, now, “all the king’s horses and all the king’s men could not put Humpty Dumpty together again.” To paraphrase a proverb, give paper currency a bad name, you might as well scrap it.  Once entrenched, backwardation in gold means that the cancer of the dollar has reached its terminal stages. The progressively evaporating trust in the value of the irredeemable dollar can no longer be stopped. Negative basis (backwardation) means that people controlling the supply of monetary gold cannot be persuaded to part with it, regardless of the bait. These people are no speculators. They are neither Scrooges nor Shylocks. They are highly capable businessmen with a conservative frame of mind. They are determined to preserve their capital come hell or high water, for saner times, so they can re-deploy it under a saner government and a saner monetary system. Their instrument is the ownership of monetary gold. They blithely ignore the siren song promising risk-free profits. Indeed, they could sell their physical gold in the spot market and buy it back at a discount in the futures market for delivery in 30 days. In any other commodity, traders controlling supply would jump at the opportunity. The lure of risk-free profits would be irresistible. Not so in the case of gold. Owners refuse to be coaxed out of their gold holdings, however large the bait may be. Why? Well, they don’t believe that the physical gold will be there and available for delivery in 30 days’ time. They don’t want to be stuck with paper gold, which is useless for their purposes of capital preservation. December 2 is a landmark, because before that date the monetary system could have been saved by opening the U.S. Mint to gold. Now, given the fact of gold backwardation, it is too late.

to read more -->

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1228499200.php





Certainly we are in new uncharterred water.  Silver eagles are a good way to start. There is a disconnect
I browse ebay and things are on a uneven level


Pernar in Singapore calculates that the premiums over spot of 1-ounce U.S. gold bullion coins sold via the Internet auction site eBay have risen to 25 percent, compared to 11 percent in August. You can read about it at his Weblog here: http://blog.cyrrion.com/?p=4



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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 12/12/2008 8:31:42 PM   
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rather odd.

gold could drop to 1/2 this week... but talk of all commodities rising...   rumour that gold could be "repriced" as the fed govt balance sheet shows gold at $44 an ounce.  which of course is way off.

I just love how there is so much conflicting information.   nevertheless... ebay gold or silver in hand is more valuable then paper gold or silver.   the markup is quite high.
factor in 2 banks that have 6x the shorts for silver since august.    6x the usual shorting.  hmm.

paper gold must be like paper food and paper heat.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 12/15/2008 4:42:42 AM   
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Ill be shocked if the DOW gains today.  I think it will loose ground today.

My parrot, he usually likes to watch me...and they do like clings and shiny...He never seen me count silver coins. Man he watched me like never before.   SO- even tho a parrot only repeats noises it heard....he knows real silver vs today's coins.   He doesn't tune in when I count quarters for the laundromat.  lol.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 12/15/2008 8:47:06 AM   
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Im pathetic!   I made a bad trade.


While I did make a small bit of money, I missed out on  a bigger profit by a few hours.  argh.   I could scream.  I think it is time for me to pull completely out of the paper market.

My plan was to gain a profit, use it to then buy the real thing.  

Jim Rogers said, all major US banks are bankrupt.   then over the weekend a dude was arrested 50 billion hedge fund- that it turns our, MANY had been "invested" in.

Then you have 2 banks shorting gold by 6x the amount  that they traditionally short.   add to it that most likely places are selling metals that are not even in the vault. in fact, if you have silver or gold stored somewhere- the storer can "lease it out", what ever that means!!!

My  parrot has fun tho. He loves when I clang silver coins.  I check them to see you know that they are total silver and not simply plated.

Oh- and even tho the big guys can naked short sell silver they dont even have, I must wait 5 days or more to get my money!!!!!! 
anyhow, with the accrued profit I can buy a small batch of it real time real stuff in hand.




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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 12/15/2008 3:09:57 PM   
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As I said earlier in this thread...gold is the place to be.  Sure jewelery is important but gold is held in high esteem as a treasured metal in half the world.  It's only the western democracies that have had such blind faith in paper currency, but they are catching on quickly.  And the "little guy" can buy gold eagles in all denominations from 1/10 of an oz to 1 oz size.  I have been buying them for years and they are a great investment vehicle for the average guy.  They don't require any assay that bullion might require, and there is a ready market for them.  You might be able to buy them on eBay which is where I started to buy them six years ago.  I also think the Canadian Dollar might be interesting down here.  The Euro has already started to move quickly as the Fed is about to cut rates, and with oil prices firming the $Cdn should trade pretty well, along with gold.

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RE: Silver price manipulation 2008 - 12/29/2008 3:59:12 AM   
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to ans the question.  I cant think of any currency that is in 2008 backed by gold.  none.

I have some good news!   When someone wasnt paying attention, I scored some platinum at a good price. !!!  yay.   the gold/silver ratio has ranged from 1:98 to 1:15.  Current being 1:80.  

NW mint has a 3 month wait for orders.  Over the weekend I got a lecture from mom.  She thinks I am all wrong.  The best we can agree on, is that it is never wise to put all the eggs in one basket.

As the new year  things take a step.

.....here is the date of the new currency --->>

There is no way that the CONSEQUENCES of the largest creation of paper money since it was invented can be avoided or even modified. Odds now favor Alf Field’s price objective. January 14th 2011 to June 21st, 2012: The best part of this gift is not the one you already know, which is January 14th 2011, but rather the date that a new currency form will replace the form of the US dollar as you know it today which is the third week of June 2012. Don’t laugh! Write this down and do not forget about it! Happy (sort of) New Year,
Jim       /snip
http://www.jsmineset.com/

...here is a dude I been watching. he says now is the time to buy silver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymPIQvqe3Uo

....now all I need to do is learn how to cook mac and chease.  lol


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