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Obama is THE most liberal guy in the country. When he breaths the argon that expells is loaded liberal, almost like a dragon breath fire.
First of all, argon is a trace element in our atmosphere. You'd expel very little of it. Second, there's a declared socialist in the Senate (Bernie Sanders). No one would be left of him.
Third, I've lost track of how many folks are repeating the line about "most liberal in the [name organization here]". It comes from the National Journal, and is taken out of context (please see here for the full story).
"National Journal's vote ratings became an issue in the 2004 general election, when Republicans used the magazine's ranking of John Kerry as the most liberal senator of 2003 to label the then-Democratic nominee as the "most liberal senator" -- even though that was his rating for just that one year, when (like Obama did) he missed quite a few Senate votes due to being on the presidential campaign trail.
As National Journal's editor wrote back then, "[O]ur magazine -- or, more precisely, our annual congressional vote ratings edition -- has become a Republican talking point in the 2004 presidential campaign. And that's been a fascinating, and disconcerting, experience. Fascinating because we're more used to being cited in congressional hearings than on the Today show. Disconcerting because the shorthand used to describe our ratings of Kerry and Edwards is sometimes misleading -- or just plain wrong."
Indeed, while Obama ranks as the magazine's most liberal senator of 2007, his ranking was 16th in 2005 and 10th in 2006.
Another question that might come up is why the magazine released its voting ratings now -- just days before Super Tuesday. In fact, the magazine says it full congressional ratings won't come out until March. But, according to the editor in a Q&A published in the magazine: "Back in December, we decided that we would publish the ratings of the presidential candidates as soon as they became available, rather than wait until our annual Vote Ratings issue on March 8. We thought it would be irresponsible to keep those scores under wraps during the height of the presidential primary season."
As for McCain, the magazine says that he didn't vote frequently enough in 2007 to get an overall rating. Per National Journal, "He missed more than half of the votes in both the economic and foreign-policy categories. On social issues, which include immigration, McCain received a conservative score of 59."
thornhappy
Hi Thorn, you are correct about argon gas. Quite interesting.
I like Obama, so I wasnt bashing him in that post.
Sarcasm.
More to the point, does anyone even recognize what a conservative is in 2008? I dont. and as a side effect- what does that do to the liberal point of view? Being that conservative is so out of whack, it validates the liberal point of view right now.
Lets look at it in terms of empire. Which line of thought want MORE empire? and which one wants LESS.
Well they both are so convoluted that they both want MORE empire.
That would be fine if we as a nation actually produced anything. But we dont. we manage it. or to be sure, we mismanage it. ie the bail outs.
People want to turn the page on bush.
Sadly tho- Obama wont.
Not really.
The true voice of Ron Paul, would have worked.
So as to the prex 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
ToAyto, tomoto,
boxers or briefs.
paper of plastic
do you want fries with that?
Bush said that he did not beleive in nation building. He said exit strategy.
We the people are stupider then cows. We have NO attention span. Of you do- then you are the fringe.
..even crazy.
everything is planned for you my friend.
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