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ParallaxOne -> Forced Fem questions....... (11/6/2008 8:34:21 AM)

Hey all, new to the boards. I just have a couple questions regarding forced feminization. I've been interested in it, and have practiced it with a few partners, and I really enjoy it. But when it comes to reading other's expierences and stories, it leaves me confused a bit.  It seems, most of the time, when I read about forced fem, that the main focus is on the clothing, and that things like makeup and accessories are often just 'thrown in' haphazardly, and then toss a wig on to complete. This doesn't really fit in with my idea of forced fem, so i'm wondering if maybe i've got the wrong idea? For me, the turn on, is the makeup, hair, nails, earrings, etc. I don't particularly care about the clothes, but the thought of being forced to get a manicure, or my hair dyed/cut, or ears pierced, makes me tremble with excitment. Tell me that you have a new dress for me to wear? Ok, sounds like fun. Tell me that i'm going to spend the next couple hours getting a forced, slutty, nail/makeup/hair makeover?  Grab a bucket of water, cause i'm passed out on the floor with joy.

Anyway, I guess i'm wondering if what I actually like isn't really forced fem? I wouldn't call it crossdressing, as the whole "forced" part is an important part.

Par




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/6/2008 8:44:12 AM)

if you like it so much...it isnt forced.  when your forced its supposed to humiliate you.





ParallaxOne -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/6/2008 8:50:35 AM)

Good point. It has to be forced though, as that's part of the turn on. I'm not going to just willingly sit there. Needs to be something forcing me to do it, wether it's mental or physical.

That brings up another point. Humilliation. It plays no part in any of my scenes, and in fact, tends to ruin them. There's no draw, no interest, there for me.




OttersSwim -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/6/2008 9:12:59 AM)

A couple of things...

Welcome to the forums.  [:)]

What is it about being -forced- that excites you? 

Isn't this something you want anyway?  Why do you have to be forced into it?

If it is something that the Lady you were serving also wanted, why wouldn't you just sit there?




SailingBum -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/6/2008 9:25:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ParallaxOne

Good point. It has to be forced though, as that's part of the turn on. I'm not going to just willingly sit there. Needs to be something forcing me to do it, wether it's mental or physical.

That brings up another point. Humilliation. It plays no part in any of my scenes, and in fact, tends to ruin them. There's no draw, no interest, there for me.


Someones not listening.  You can't force the willing duh.  Your role playing which is a horse of a different color.  "Act like your forcing me cuz i really enjoi it"  Opposed to "shut the fuck up and wear it cuz I like it"

BadOne




ParallaxOne -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/6/2008 9:31:18 AM)

Thanks for the welcome. :)

As for being forced, I consider myself sub, and I really like the idea of not being in control, having no say in what happens. I have access to all the supply's I need, but it's just not the same if I willing go and do it myself. And the semi permenant nature of some makeup, nail polish/extensions, and hair dye/cuts, is part of the excitement too.  I guess I see it as kind of like bondage(which I also really enjoy). Maybe i'm just weird. :D

Unfortunatly, right now I don't have a lady to serve. In the past, it's just been a case of she knows what I like, and I know what she likes, and we went from there.




hardbodysub -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/7/2008 7:12:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

if you like it so much...it isnt forced.  when your forced its supposed to humiliate you.




You missed the point. It's obvious from his statements that it's being forced that makes it exciting, not just the feminine accessories.




Usako -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/7/2008 7:19:01 AM)

The idea of "forced" anything makes me laugh. Guys sit around and fantasize so much about it, they desire it, yet when it's done they want to call ied "forced."

As said before, if you want it so bad then it's not really "forced" it's just role playing in my book. Forced, to me, would mean you honestly don't want to do it but she's making you anyway. It's a forced fantasy of something you enjoy.




Alighierisquest -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/7/2008 10:25:43 AM)

As long as you have a clear idea of what it is and how to communicate it you can call it whatever you like.  In terms of adverting it to a potential partner I'd just call it feminization.  




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/7/2008 10:39:48 AM)

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I'd just call it feminization.


or crossdressing.

usako and i are on the same page...forced? pfft.





HeidiAnn -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/7/2008 1:38:39 PM)

i kinda do understand the whole forced thing. i think people can have mental barriers that feel unbreakable on your own and you need to be "forced" to face them by someone else. Breaking such barriers takes force, maybe in this kind of things the force is more like a "force of support." Human mind is such a powerful thing. :)

heidi




AAkasha -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/7/2008 1:44:11 PM)


If you were a kinky femdom and you were into "forced" scenarios like the ones you describe, you do you think you would enjoy "forcing:

a) a man who has a fantasy of being forced, very specific about what and how, and even had the gear and has thought about it a ton
b) a man who has never thought of being feminized and is seduced or duped into doing it and is shocked, uncomfortable, nervous and then cannot deny when he is turned on...

Now, how are you going to compete with guy "b" if a woman is really into "forced"?

Akasha




SingleRarity -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/7/2008 6:50:28 PM)

Sir and I don't get tons of  cmail, but we still get that random letter here and there, from a male desiring "forced feminization".  Quite a few times I've wrote back saying something along the lines of "it isn't forced, if you're desiring it".  No one's ever written me back.

Daddy's Ballerina, e




babygirlkitten -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/8/2008 12:53:31 AM)

It's true that it isn't entirely "forced" if you're enjoying it. But that's similar to rape scenes, where it isn't really rape if you've negotiated it. It's all in the mindset. It's the psychology of the thing.
As for most experiences that the OP read about focusing on clothing, well, that's simply because that is what is of interest to the Dom/me and sub in question. If you're interested in the jewelry, hair, makeup, and the like, then obviouly you should focus on that. There is no one right way to do forced feminization or cross dressing, just as there's no one right way to do bondage or Daddy/girl play or medical play. It's all in what you and your partner are in to.




tvsue -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/8/2008 5:34:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: babygirlkitten

It's true that it isn't entirely "forced" if you're enjoying it. But that's similar to rape scenes, where it isn't really rape if you've negotiated it. It's all in the mindset. It's the psychology of the thing.
As for most experiences that the OP read about focusing on clothing, well, that's simply because that is what is of interest to the Dom/me and sub in question. If you're interested in the jewelry, hair, makeup, and the like, then obviouly you should focus on that. There is no one right way to do forced feminization or cross dressing, just as there's no one right way to do bondage or Daddy/girl play or medical play. It's all in what you and your partner are in to.


nice comment
yes i like the idea of forced fem but then i do crossdress, now add some padlocks to dress & shoes not bondage and that changes things a bit i think, i would then have lost the chance to undress when i wanted to or if i did not want to play any more.
yes/no
curtsy tvsue




ExKat -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/8/2008 7:55:32 AM)

  For all that the forum-dwellers nag about male subs and their various "forced" fantasies...is rape play any different? We all point out that because you can't really force someone to do anything legally, all of these "forced bi" and "forced feminization", and "forced [insert random malesub fantasy here]" isn't really forced at all, and shouldn't be called such. But rape play is essentially the same thing, and is widely accepted as it's own separate fantasy.
   "Forced sex", while, after all, is simply sex, the force element adds a lot to it, and changes it into a completly different turn-on.
  Is there such a big difference between "forced sex v. sex", and "forced feminization v. feminization?"


~Katie, who hopes that makes sense to me.




missturbation -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/8/2008 9:26:44 AM)

Example one. You are knelt in front of your D type and he asks you/tells you to give him head. Chances are you do it and enjoy it.
 
Example two. You are knelt in front of your D type and he grabs you by the hair and forces you to give him head. Chances are you enjoy it and have the added bonus of it being forced.
 
Noone would question the use of the word force in the above because the s type desired this kind of treatment, enjoyed it and possibly didn't feel humiliated by it.
 
So why question the op on whether his forced feminisation is forced or not?
 




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/8/2008 9:41:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation
So why question the op on whether his forced feminisation is forced or not?

Simply because they've nothing else to do !

Have a lovely weekend.

GoddezzT`




Evertonic -> RE: Forced Fem questions....... (11/9/2008 11:18:59 PM)

Sounds like a whole lot of soap boxing goin' on around here.

The few posts above me really redeemed this thread and I agree with them completely. Many of us around here are into "The Taboo," and it's quite curious to see how many people just don't yet understand the theory. We like certain things simply because we shouldn't. As stated above, a forced scene needn't be forced more than play rape is real rape in order to be enjoyable. Of course the level of force varies from partner to partner and couple to couple, but that's for the individual or couple to decide, not someone in a post of words on the internet.





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