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missturbation -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/5/2008 8:56:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catize quote: Not sure if you are implying that this kind of beating is done in public but if you are, personally i have tended to find that maintenance or reinforcing beatings are done in private. As I am not familiar with the series, and it is referred to as the Marketplace series, yes I was assuming the speaker was talking about a public venue---as in the marketplace! Ah yeah i see your point. It was a private setting in the book. Trainer to slave.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/5/2008 2:48:19 PM)
I am sure people will just breeze over this, as they seem to be focusing on the pain and sadism. As you learned, it is not about the pain, it is about the surrender and the effect physical strikes can have on a slave feeling that. Someone else mentioned it was the minority, so I guess all I have ever owned is the minority, which works for me. quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance You know, before I experienced it, I would ave scoffed at the notion espoused in the books. When I knelt and begged for the collar, part of the ritual was to give me 3 strikes with this evil thing that had 3 strands knotted with what felt like freaking cannon balls at the end of it. I scoffed, when he showed it to me, thinking pfft, that toy won't even tickle. 3 strikes and I was bawling. Not because it hurt, which it DID. But because of how it effected me, emotionally, to be naked, kneeling before someone who had the power to strike me like that whenever he chose. It laid me bare, emotionally. I wasn't even remotely prepared for that sort of a response. I hated it. I hated him, and I hated that gawdawful three balled bastard, at that moment anyway. Fickle slut that I am. I was hugging and kissing him minutes later. Turned out to be the better choice, since my other impulse was to shove that hated implement up his umm....nostrils yeah, that's what I was thinking.

lally3 -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/5/2008 3:30:04 PM)
what reinforces my place as someones submissive is their control over me. it doesnt have to be a beating, but if it is, if its what they want to do because they can then thats just as good a reinforcement tool as any. but it would have to be a pretty sound one. half a dozen lathargic slaps wouldnt cut it. after a resounding thrashing im in a whole different place, totally at peace, happy and proud of myself that i got through it and i served in the way that was wanted. i get to walk around for a couple of days with a red swollen bum and all is well with the world. it settles me, focuses me, calms me down. be that because they can, for discipline or punishment the effect is the same - i feel more connected to myself and to them. just as easily they could use the psychology tool and settle me that way - so maybe the excerpt was written from a sympathy toward a fully masochistic slave that physically needs pain on a regular basis to keep them level and able to focus on their position as slave without being distracted by unsatiated needs only met through receiving a beating.

IvyMorgan -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/5/2008 4:29:47 PM)
I used to experience maintenance beatings, or punishments, they created fear, obedience, removed the idea that it was okay to question instructions... It didn't necessarily have to be me going through it, it could be one of the others, and the effect was still the same. I do not believe I would like a similar experience now. Beat me because you want to, certainly, more the merrier. Beat me to make me afraid of you, and I'm not up for that.

marie2 -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/5/2008 4:56:15 PM)
I think it's all wrapped up into one actually. No, it isn't just about the sensation of pain. It involves endurance of that pain, and surrendering to the will of another, for however long, however hard etc. But if there wasn't any pain, I don't think there would be much value in the surrender. I don't think you can have one without the other. quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf I am sure people will just breeze over this, as they seem to be focusing on the pain and sadism. As you learned, it is not about the pain, it is about the surrender and the effect physical strikes can have on a slave feeling that. Someone else mentioned it was the minority, so I guess all I have ever owned is the minority, which works for me. quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance You know, before I experienced it, I would ave scoffed at the notion espoused in the books. When I knelt and begged for the collar, part of the ritual was to give me 3 strikes with this evil thing that had 3 strands knotted with what felt like freaking cannon balls at the end of it. I scoffed, when he showed it to me, thinking pfft, that toy won't even tickle. 3 strikes and I was bawling. Not because it hurt, which it DID. But because of how it effected me, emotionally, to be naked, kneeling before someone who had the power to strike me like that whenever he chose. It laid me bare, emotionally. I wasn't even remotely prepared for that sort of a response. I hated it. I hated him, and I hated that gawdawful three balled bastard, at that moment anyway. Fickle slut that I am. I was hugging and kissing him minutes later. Turned out to be the better choice, since my other impulse was to shove that hated implement up his umm....nostrils yeah, that's what I was thinking.

persephonee -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/5/2008 5:44:05 PM)
~FR~ Sometimes i need a maintenence beating simply because i cant seem to switch gears. If im all about the Mommy vibe or had a really really awful week at work, it just isnt enough to talk me into good headspace. And i realize that my headspace is my responsibility, but nothing realigns me like a handful of hair and a firm push to the floor. i can be midsentence and boom....cant recall a thing except what i am in his eyes...Thats one reason i have issues with distance. i hope to work my way through this so that the things that im accountable for are things that i can attain on my own, but as it stands now, sometimes i simply need to be beaten into it.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/6/2008 7:26:23 AM)
First, I want to say that I am using the word "beating" in the way that the OP first used it...not as a term for abuse but as a term for "striking the submissive for any other reason except anger". That said, my reasons would be: 1. Because I want to do it and I can. (the dominant aspect) 2. I like to do it because the pain creates sexual arousal (the sadistic aspect), whether mine or hers or both. 3. Because I feel that it is a great way to reinforce the dynamic I am in. (me dominant, you submissive) 4. Because it is a great way to "adjust" my own/the submissive's thinking (again, the dominant aspect) I have tried to list the reasons in order of importance to me...they may align differently for others. I agree with persephonee that the submissive's headspace..."I agreed to submit and my submission should not have to be attained by extreme means or by means that I think should be used" as the basic premise...I can certainly understand that there are occasions wherein that headspace, just as the dominant headspace, can be set aside due to outside interference. While I use other ways...touching the emotional and intellectual and physical aspects of her through communication and hands-on methods of a differering nature...in addition to the beatings so that I don't end up using only one means of "communication" to reinforce the dynamic or to have fun, I would not want to have to drop the beatings as one of my ways of communicating who and what I am and who and what WE are. _________________________________________________________________________ You may not know where I'm going but you damn sure know where I stand...

WhiplashSmile2 -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/6/2008 11:44:42 AM)
Sure one can beat somebody to remind them of their position and reinforce the D/s dynamic. However, there are a lot of other things that achieve the same results without beating involved. For people who are into Heavy S&M, why not? All this is making a beating become part of a ritual between two people, like any other ritual it reminds each other of that dynamic. This really is about ritual beatings in a heavy S&M D/s relationship. So, I'm calling it for what it really is. Just another form of ritual between two people. Not something to do, if you are not into S&M, or into heavy S&M.

LPslittleclip -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/8/2008 6:38:02 PM)
im a bit of a maso sub but for me the beatings in the play time i get are a reward to me not a punishment. for me being ignored is very unpleasant. i am a submissive and i know my place is at my M'Ladys feet. if i displease her then she will deal with me as she sees fit. that aside i do enjoy a good beating

IronBear -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/8/2008 7:33:22 PM)
There are three reasons I will beat (flogg, crop, cane or whip) a slave: As an essential part of their training so they understand what may happen with breaches of disclipline and to understand what each of my impliments actually feals like when used erotically and hard. (Sometimes this also includes demonstrating beatings to other newbies or vanilla folk who want to incorperate it into their sex fantacies). To administer punishment. Because I wish to. (sometimes too I will beat a girl as a treat for her). This may be a hard beating so I will have chosen a pain slut as a target to satisfy my lust, or another girl when I choose to incorperate a beating in a sexual activity.

masterlink65 -> RE: Reasons for a beating !! (11/9/2008 8:28:55 AM)
beatings are for pleasure here. kind of like treats for my slaves. my slaves get off on it more than i do. there are other things i can do for disciplinary meaures

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