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tsatske -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 5:21:11 AM)

Hunting for sport limits suffering.
Of course it feeds people - rather the family of the hunter, or a donation to the local food bank.
But, deer season comes WHEN it does for a reason.
The thining of the herd by humans is one of the things that the main game animals - like deer - evolved to adjust to.
When for some reason there is suddenly no hunting in a given area, dear starve and die horrible, slow deaths, even with game warrens trying to set out food.
Humans ARE part of the natural circle of life and hunting, by humans, is part of it. without it, much more suffering.

and slave boy for you is right. Do you think the pig that goes to its trough everyday, watches the farmer that tends to its every need filling it to feed him, maybe gets his ear scratched by the farmer - is aware that once he eats enough, a truck with a ramp is going to back up to his home and soon he will be in a bag on a shelf labeled 'super hot pork skin snacks'?

You are anthropomorphizing the deer, sfs. The pig really doesn't know what is going on, he has been domesticated.
The deer knows this contest is going on, knows it every minute of every day from his birth. He is a food animal on the food chain, not just to humans, and evolution long ago took care of any deer genes for wandering through the woods in a meditative state, unaware that something wants to eat him.



LaTigresse -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 5:24:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lorr47

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I am going to start a school to teach animals to use weapons so they can shoot back at the hunters.

If you hunters want be brave go and wrestle a bear.


Although I see the necessity for hunting, I agree that most hunters have never been shot at.  Having been shot at gives you a whole new perspective.



To get shot at, all you have to do is come to my corner of the world during the first shotgun season when all the stupid city boys come out to start blasting away. Don't even think about taking a pleasurable stroll through the timber or ride a horse out through a nice field of set-aside.

However I've left plenty of room in my deep freeze for a deer's worth of summer sausage and those awsome pepperjack deer sticks the local locker makes for me. I think, as of last year, I can finally hunt legally with my favourite blaster of choice. Imagine, after 25 years of having the DNR roll his eyes and look the other way, I am legal. Granted, I didn't hunt every one of those 25 years, but I much prefer a pistol over a long gun. I am a whimp.



GreedyTop -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 5:30:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rever

Only Monkeys can use guns.  


HEY! *grin*

Actually, I saw the title of this thread and had "duck season!" "rabbit season!!" running through my head.. *sigh*



GreedyTop -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 5:32:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
However I've left plenty of room in my deep freeze for a deer's worth of summer sausage and those awsome pepperjack deer sticks the local locker makes for me.



*drooooool*



cjan -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 6:08:35 AM)

Ron White suggests designing a  bullet for deer hunting that has a velocity of 55 mph, has bright headlights and a little horn that blows from the moment of firing to impact. It would never miss and might cut down on hunter casualties.



OrionTheWolf -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 6:10:50 AM)

Hunting for food or pleasure is quite enjoyable. Yeah it would be better if we could hunt humans and give them guns to carry. If it were human season it would only be hunting for pleasure, and I know several humans that need to be zeroed.


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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Abattoirs are an abomination.
I concede the hunting for food argument.

Hunting for pleasure.....never.



rexrgisformidoni -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 6:12:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lorr47

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I am going to start a school to teach animals to use weapons so they can shoot back at the hunters.

If you hunters want be brave go and wrestle a bear.


Although I see the necessity for hunting, I agree that most hunters have never been shot at.  Having been shot at gives you a whole new perspective.



I've been shot at while hunting. Some a-hole was mad I got a bigger dear and when my Dad and I were gutting it, someone shot the tree right next to us and called us a-holes. Scary shit.

hunting for me is primal, makes me feel truly alive again,



pahunkboy -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 6:28:32 AM)

my 2 cents.

thin out the herd.

too many smack up their car when they bolt onto the road.   in PA deer numbers are too high.



UncleNasty -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 6:48:20 AM)

Every living thing is food for something else. Such is the natural order. Throw us into the ground without any chemicals or lead lined caskets and we'll be eaten pretty quickly by micro organisms too.

I have opinions as to what are respectful and/or spiritual attitudes about hunting. I take deer on my property every year and I feel it is only fair to harvest a few of them. They "harvest" out of my garden all year.

Sport hunting just rubs me the wrong way. Very disrespectful of nature in general, and of the animal in particular.

I pray over all of my kills and am thankful they have given their life (or that I have taken it from them) so that mine may be sustained.

Butchering takes me hours, and I do my own. A lot of the meat can be harvested quickly and easily - perhaps in the 80% range and in about 30 minutes (once it has been skinned anyway). The other meat takes a long time to get. I do it anyway as it seems using as much as I can is the most respectful thing to do.

As for any of it being "sporting" or "fair?" Not at all. We have superior intellect and we use weapons. That pretty much makes it a rigged game. Though I have heard rumors that some areas have started an atlatl season. Anyone here know about that?

Uncle Nasty



bipolarber -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 7:27:22 AM)

I dunno... maybe it's just me getting older, but I just don't look forward to it anymore...

But, y'all can have a good time out there in the cold weather, and dousing yourself in buck urine for me, okay?



bluepanda -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 7:35:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I am going to start a school to teach animals to use weapons so they can shoot back at the hunters.

If you hunters want be brave go and wrestle a bear.


That'll keep you busy for a while.



bipolarber -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 7:39:48 AM)

Let's see.. after you buy the ammo, spend the money for gas, agree to give up a portion of the meat to the landowners in exchange for permission to be on their land, being paranoid about hunting on the same land with a bunch of beer swilling banker "weekend warriors," more gas to take the carcass to a meat processor... (that is, if you bag something in the first place) You end up with maybe thirty pounds of meat in the freezer. 

Down at the local meat market, they offer vennison for about $4.85 a pound. Steaks and sausages too! Ususally supplied by hunters who are better at this than I am. (So it's kinda like the dreaded "socialisim.") And it's a gauranteed meal.

So, go out, freeze my ass off... and MAYBE come home with food... OR go down to the market, buy the meat from other people's hunts, keep the bulk of my money, and my spare time, and stay warm by the fire.

Hummmmm.....



OrionTheWolf -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 7:43:51 AM)

Sarcasm and sick humor contained in my comment. I do not advocate the hunting of humans, or any other illegal activity.



quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Hunting for food or pleasure is quite enjoyable. Yeah it would be better if we could hunt humans and give them guns to carry. If it were human season it would only be hunting for pleasure, and I know several humans that need to be zeroed.


quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Abattoirs are an abomination.
I concede the hunting for food argument.

Hunting for pleasure.....never.




mistoferin -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 7:49:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

Archery started last week.  A buddy of mine already took a buck.  Muzzleloading starts next week.  I went and scouted a few places today.  Modern gun season starts in a couple of weeks.  Anyone else hunting this fall? 


Deer season YAY!!!! You betcha I'll be out there. Can almost taste them tenderloins now.[:)]



Raechard -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 7:50:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf
Sarcasm and sick humor contained in my comment. I do not advocate the hunting of humans, or any other illegal activity.


I love disclaimers.[:D]



bipolarber -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 7:53:45 AM)

Orion,

Then why not sign up for Iraq? Maybe you can bag an insurgent... same thing as hunting, just a different social framework.



rexrgisformidoni -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 8:21:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: UncleNasty

Every living thing is food for something else. Such is the natural order. Throw us into the ground without any chemicals or lead lined caskets and we'll be eaten pretty quickly by micro organisms too.

I have opinions as to what are respectful and/or spiritual attitudes about hunting. I take deer on my property every year and I feel it is only fair to harvest a few of them. They "harvest" out of my garden all year.

Sport hunting just rubs me the wrong way. Very disrespectful of nature in general, and of the animal in particular.

I pray over all of my kills and am thankful they have given their life (or that I have taken it from them) so that mine may be sustained.

Butchering takes me hours, and I do my own. A lot of the meat can be harvested quickly and easily - perhaps in the 80% range and in about 30 minutes (once it has been skinned anyway). The other meat takes a long time to get. I do it anyway as it seems using as much as I can is the most respectful thing to do.

As for any of it being "sporting" or "fair?" Not at all. We have superior intellect and we use weapons. That pretty much makes it a rigged game. Though I have heard rumors that some areas have started an atlatl season. Anyone here know about that?

Uncle Nasty


I too have prayed over every animal I have taken. Gutted, skinned, butchered, all long hours, but ones I have to work to make sure the meat in my freezer means something.



DDraigeuraid -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 8:34:26 AM)

I havn't hunted in years.  I do have friends who hunt, mostly the wild pigs here.  I even know one who only takes a knife.  Once his dogs grab hold of the pig, he goes in with the knife.  Pigs are not defenseless.  They have long sharp tusks that can rip you apart.  or rip the dogs apart.  The island is overrun with pigs, they tear up gardens and lawns.
Dragon



slaveluci -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 8:58:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
Deer season YAY!!!! You betcha I'll be out there. Can almost taste them tenderloins now.[:)]

Mmmmm, me too.  I don't actually hunt but grew up with friends, family and neighbors doing so.  We were taught as kids how to help skin and gut the deer and always watched the cutting and helped package it for the freezer.  I don't think I've ever tasted better meat than tenderloin fresh from the deer fried up with salt, pepper and onions.  Gawd, I miss WV.  I don't know any hunters here[&o]...............luci



mistoferin -> RE: Deer season! (10/12/2008 9:02:19 AM)

Peeked at your profile luci to see where you are. I don't know anyone in Arkansas. Maybe if you joined a local gun club or something....or sometimes you can find wild game dinners at sportsmen's clubs during or right after deer season.



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