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pahunkboy -> Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/8/2008 8:00:28 PM)

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gWQSAw_s2aqqnJS5Ib0-PbD24H5gD93MJAO00

OMG!    deparate times call for desparate measures.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/8/2008 8:02:21 PM)

I am starting to wish I bought an expensive home and defaulted on the payment.




Vendaval -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/8/2008 8:08:59 PM)

Hi hunkboy,
 
I saw that on the evening news.  The sheriff is right that evicting renters who have been paying their rent on time because the property owner defaulted is not justice.  This percentage was higher than I expected, quoting from your link - [&:]
 
"He said that in a third of the 400 to 500 foreclosure evictions his deputies had been carrying out every month, the residents are not those whose names are on the eviction papers."




slvemike4u -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/8/2008 8:18:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

I am starting to wish I bought an expensive home and defaulted on the payment.
FDD do you read the links?Or just try to come up with a sarcastic quip everytime,you missed the mark on this one.




Bethnai -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/8/2008 8:38:34 PM)

Good. I'm glad somebody is doing something right.

It is bad enough that people are going to be forced to leave. Winter will be here soon. There are a lot of people who are going to go without electricity as it is. Just to locate a place is going to be bad enough, plus coming up with the money for first and security.




kinkbound -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/8/2008 9:29:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Hi hunkboy,
 
I saw that on the evening news.  The sheriff is right that evicting renters who have been paying their rent on time because the property owner defaulted is not justice.  This percentage was higher than I expected, quoting from your link - [&:]
 
"He said that in a third of the 400 to 500 foreclosure evictions his deputies had been carrying out every month, the residents are not those whose names are on the eviction papers."


I live in Cook County. I saw this, or perhaps something very similar, on the local news tonight too. I didn't catch it from the very beginning, so I don't know exactly who was being interviewed. However, he did conclude by saying that they're not trying to prohibit evictions. They just want due diligence performed so that on-time renters are not being evicted.  




Vendaval -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/8/2008 11:24:58 PM)

Yes, the article in the OP has the same point.




tweedydaddy -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/9/2008 3:03:49 AM)

This is the twenty first century and we are still throwing people out on the street. Eviction is a Neanderthal, oversimplistic measure, there can't be any possible benefit for it. You chuck someone out of their home and they are never going to pay you back. The result will only be a huge glut of unsellable homes, pushing prices even further down and losing even more money, and the resulting homeless population will put unbearable pressure on resources. It's all so pointless, when will people stop making war on the poor? If a person is on the floor, help them up, don't tell them to get up or be damned. There's nothing wrong with helping someone get back up again. Most of the people with a problem with aiding people in difficulties are themselves only a downsize away from joining them.
A programme to retrain workers and assist people in starting their own businesses casting a tenth of what we are giving the bankers to sandbag their drowning assets from the flood would be enough to seriosuly lift the economy.
Giving the bankers who gambled everything away more money is like giving a junkie the keys to your local pharmacy.




Termyn8or -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/9/2008 8:57:28 AM)

Why the heck don't they let the renters deposit their rent with the court, like they do when the landlord won't fix the hot water or something like that ?

The legal ramifications can be handled by a competent lawyer, and it can be made into a practically lossless solution. If the tenents have been paying their rent, why not let them keep paying ? The court should be within the it's jurisdiction to nullify, because one party to the contract no longer exists in judica (sp). A new contract is formed and the people can stay, but with one caveat. They must keep the place up.

This can be a disadvantage, if for example the hot water tank tanks, they have to go to a DIY store, get one and put it in, or take cold showers. They might be out about $250 if they do it themselves but it's better than being homeless. Actually it would probably be fair to give them a lien on the property at least for the materials. They get this back when it is finally sold. There really is no reason for them to be put out until it is sold.

I would like to point out something else, bearing my unique point of view on things ; there is more malfeasance here than most people are seeing. First of all, when the house is rented this was not a dream house sold to someone who is mathematically challenged. Noone usually rents a place for less than the payment. Sometimes people decide to just replace the income needed for the payment with rent coming in, that allows them to move if they desire. I know someone who did exactly that, and so far so good.

The renters checked out clean and the way it was setup, after the remodeling was done on their new house, they moved and the lease for the renters of the old house started two days later. It worked out like a dream. Their equity is now working for them and there is nothing wrong with that.

But in the situations depicted by the OP, the owners were spending the rent and not making the payments. There is no other logical reason for this. This is clearly malfeasance on the part of the landlord, a point that I am a bit surprised to see nobody else has brought up. Too bad DA isn't around anymore, he probably would've seen it right away as he had no mercy for the financially irresponsible. These ex-owners knew they were screwing people over, at the very least they could have let the renters know.

Eventually the ex-owners who spent the rent would be identified and that info put into their credit file, that they violated by screwing the system in this way. On the other hand the renters, who paid on time and were about to get a big weenie up the dupa are similarly identified, and maybe would get preferential treatment when they want to buy a house.

Although quite liberal for me, I think I can almost justify this under the Constitution, because it aims to protect the family home. Most of the money loaned out is foreign in origin, which should supply ample jurisdiction. Unfortunately this provides for the bailout as well, because if US money isn't used, foreign money will literally be buying our land dirt cheap. Look what happened to the Native Americans. You know I am against the bailout, but unless foreign governments are prevented from doing it, the talk of them buying America in the past is pale compared to the reality to come. Without a shot fired.

I wonder how many other Sherrifs across this land might just follow suit. Reasons might be political as they will gain some local support, but the support of renters is not as solid as the support of owners. Renters could go anywhere. I can almost smell morality.

T




pahunkboy -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/9/2008 9:53:54 AM)

cook county is densely populated.   there are a huge amount of blocks that one would not want to live on.   a house that is empty isnt good for the block.

the link read that the bank must in effect go thru some additional paperwork.

the banks of course wont want to do this.

not everyone had a mini mansion buildt on  this housing mess.




Irishknight -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/9/2008 4:50:45 PM)

I would think that it would be in the bank's interest to accept the rent payments directly.  I realize that would require the banks to open a new department and start acting as a landlord  and that it would create jobs ... Wait.  Isn't that a good thing?  They would make more money in the long run and people would have jobs and money to spend.  Maybe I've hit on a novel concept here. 




PanthersMom -> RE: Chicago's Cook County won't evict in foreclosures (10/9/2008 5:30:57 PM)

they'd just shift the book keeping duties to someone in india, forget about hiring someone here who needs a job.
PM




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