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John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 8:53:28 AM   
slvemike4u


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Status: offline 		Has any candidate had a more disastrous 2 week period.Starting with his ill fated pronouncements on the economy...to Palin's interviews in which she reveals herself as a blabbering idiot whose only firm grasp of issues would seem to be that our closest neighbors are in fact foriegn nations...brilliant.Then Sen.McCain announced that his presence was critical to the bailout and the debates needed to be cancelled...well all seem to agree the glare of Presidential politics ,rather than help probably jammed up the process...his white charger turned into a nag rather quickly...Now he comes into the debates haggard,tainted and indecisive...If the voters of this country truly feel this man is Presidential timbre we are all screwed...a car wreck nothing more nothing less...

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:11:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		As some of the talking heads were saying last night, "The Late Show With David Letterman" may end up being the "jump the shark" moment of the McCain campaign. His version of Howard Dean's "Hooo Ahhhh!" moment.

Day one: "The fundamentals of the economy are strong..." (as the Dow crashes 500 points)
Day two: "the fundamentals of the economy I was speaking of are the American workers..."
Day three: "I think Cox should be fired..." (scapegoating)
Day Four: "You know, this could be serious...."
Day Five: "Damit this is a crisis!"
Day Six: "This is so serious, I'm going to steal Obama's idea, and run with it. I'm suspending my campaign until we resolve this!"
Day Six 1/2: Blows off Letterman, to do Couric interview. (Lies to Dave about flying to Washington immediately.) Then goes to hotel and has dinner and a good night's sleep.
Day Six 3/4: Attends Clinton's global initiative the next day. (Not in Washington.)
Day Seven: House announces it has gotten the agreement ready for a vote.
Day Seven and 1/4: McCain arrives. Goes into an hour long meeting with house republicans.
Day Seven and 1/2: Republicans emerge from meeting with alternative plan that guts any regulation of the mortgage loan industry. Substitues BS of private investment via t-bills. Keeps complexity so that financial institutions can continue fraud on American people.
Day Eight: McCain sits in on legislative draft meetings. Says nothing substantive. Looks good for cameras, doing nothing. Smiling and nodding.
Day Eight 1/4: WaMu sinks. Biggest bank failure in the history of the United States.
Day Eight and 1/2: Debate?

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:29:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		According to the Gallup poll...the race is tied. The Battleground poll shows McCain is ahead. Rasmussen shows Obama ahead. So who knows where the race is right now.

Obama's statement about this was also an indication of ignorance. "If they need me, they will call me."

Polls also show that as many as 75% of voters think neither one of these guys will be effective as President. We dont have a good leader to put up there...that's just the reality.

From what I heard both Obama and McCain had the deer in headlights look when at the meeting at the White House yesturday. Neither one of these guys have any clue how the economy works. We are fucked either way.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:40:10 AM   
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We are fucked either way.



No. With the old man it means getting fucked where it hurts and without lube.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:42:20 AM   
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And what's Barack and the Democrats going to do? They are just as clueless as everyone else.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:44:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's arguable, but what isn't is that the McCain team has one rather prominent loose electron on its ranks, who could become president of this country when she doesn't have a fucking clue.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:47:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are $7 million dollars in earmarks in this bailout bill including some for Joe Biden!

The Democrats are a joke!

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:48:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Meh. I don't look at his campaign promises, and Palin, I don't know enough about yet. But McCain's voting record and his proven ability to get his pet projects pushed through earn him my vote. I was surprised to find that, in a side-by-side comparison, McCain beats Obama for libertarian values--less government, freedom of choice (although he's pro-life, and I'm not), and government within the stated principles and amendments of the Constitution (as opposed to, say, a government run on emergency powers.) I am, and I find this as difficult to believe as my friends who are giving me hell over it, going to vote for McCain.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:48:55 AM   
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There are $7 million dollars in earmarks in this bailout bill including some for Joe Biden!

The Democrats are a joke!


Washington has some biiiiig balls.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 9:56:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been in hell ever since I've had to hear Sarah Palin's accent on television. He deserves a lot longer than two weeks in hell for putting me through that sort of pain.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 11:32:38 AM   
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According to the Gallup poll...the race is tied.

That's odd I just rechecked Gallup and they have Obama with a 3% lead. Were you providing your own version of the facts again?

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 11:42:17 AM   
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According to the Gallup poll...the race is tied.

That's odd I just rechecked Gallup and they have Obama with a 3% lead. Were you providing your own version of the facts again?

Not that the polls mean anything, but here's the current numbers:

Gallup - Obama/Biden 48%, McCain/Palin 45%
Rasmussen - Obama/Biden 50%, McCain/Palin 45%

And the gap is widening...

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 11:52:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		It was comical that McCain issued an ad claiming that the Fannie Mae chairman was an Obama advisor, which was just a baldfaced lie . . . and then the news broke that one of McCain's top staffers had been lobbyist to prevent regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Good stuff!


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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 12:10:18 PM   
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Really?

And what's Barack and the Democrats going to do? They are just as clueless as everyone else.


Track records show that Republican policies have harmed the nation. Why not point your attention at the proper target?

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 1:06:06 PM   
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,,,and he STILL has Gramm on his campaign, after Phil called this all a "mental recession" and that we were all a bunch of "Whiners." How freakin' twisted is THAT?

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 1:44:49 PM   
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You are damn straight kittisol.  I am ashamed to be called an American, and that is a sad day for me.

Regards, MissSCD

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We are fucked either way.



No. With the old man it means getting fucked where it hurts and without lube.


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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 1:53:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not ashamed to be American. Our system is NOT repeat NOT perfect, but I'll take it over anything else out there. I'm just gonna stop, I've to much I want to say and I'm to uneducated about to many things to speak intelligently. And I have to go study for a test that'll gain me a 20% salary raise over my career.

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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 1:56:47 PM   
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RE: John McCains 2 weeks in hell. - 9/26/2008 2:35:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today's Polls, 9/26

"On the eve of the first Presidential Debate, Barack Obama is perhaps in as strong a position in the polls as he has been all year, now projecting to win the election 74.7 percent of the time. Both the state and the national polls that have come out within the past 48 hours have generally been quite favorable to Obama, and suggest that he may gained an additional point or so above and beyond his "Lehman Leap" from last week.

Still, there are a couple of silver linings for McCain in the state polling:

Wait, which silver linings? Well, McCain gets good numbers in West Virginia and Montana, two states that looked like they might just have been on the verge of being competitive. And although Obama looks as though he's slightly ahead in New Hampshire, it also looks to be polling behind his national numbers -- we project Obama to win New Hampshire by 0.7 points, but the national popular vote by 2.9 points. So if the race tightens up, Obama may no longer be able to bank on New Hampshire's 4 electoral votes.

Still, McCain has very serious problems in Virginia, and extremely serious problems in Michigan, which is starting to drift off the swing state list. And forget about the Pacific Northwest. But at this stage, the electoral math is starting to diminish in importance; McCain needs to make gains everywhere, which means he needs a clutch performance in tonight's debate."

Source: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

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