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The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/21/2008 2:10:29 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		We could discuss any number of things. Instead, we discuss:

1) Vote for McCain/Palin, and anyone who doesn't think they are God's team is manipulating language for political gain

2) Obama. See #1

3) I saw this on Youtube, the primiere news organization in the world, so how can you doubt it?????

This is neither debate nor discussion. I'd actually LOVE a true discussion devoted to potentially changing minds given convincing arguments. Instead, children throwing stones in a school yard have more integrity----after all, the stones are real.

I know I'm pissing in the wind...but hey---it's how things are done here.

Maverick reformers. Change. Right.

Diss all you want. Find a mirror to see the problem.

[Damn. There goes my ambassador job------along it DID work for Bolton. Whatever]
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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/21/2008 2:43:29 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		        WTF are you whining about here, Muse?  Even in the throes of a general election season (which some of us enjoy participating in  ) you'll find topics all over the map.  Don't like the choices on the first page?  Go back a few.  All sorts of good, non-political subjects are down there.  How many have a post from you aboard?

       I dunno.  Maybe you could go add your own views and insights to some of those, instead of just pushing them further down with this electron abuse.

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/21/2008 3:56:43 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		This is an excellent example, and from someone I know can do much, much better.

Whining? There's an easy ciritism at virtually anything.

And posting my own thoughts? Jesus, you know far better than that.

So here's another cheap shot.

Instead, we could be outlining our views. But when that happens, the threads jump back to the cheap shots---and here you are leading the pack.

Wouldn't a discussion that might persuade people be more useful? Until then, this is all just a food fight.

*patientlly wipes away the green jello*

You want cheap shots instead? Sure, why not. Pointless, but takes far less time. For example---who's protecting Alaska from Russia while Palin is campaigning around the other states? Sure---stupid point. But fits right in here nicely!

And now the thread can proceed with the rash of rabid denoucements.

Feel proud.


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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/21/2008 4:08:14 PM   
FullCircle


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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/21/2008 6:53:37 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		But who can know the ways of the wind and the caribou.

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/21/2008 7:01:21 PM   
corysub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

But who can know the ways of the wind and the caribou.


huh??!  Is that one of those "a wet duck never flies at night" thoughts?

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/21/2008 7:22:22 PM   
TheHeretic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

and here you are leading the pack.




          Those who can; do 

          Fine, Muse, I'll tell you what.  Why don't you outline your views of what makes a good discussion?  Let's make it easy and fun.  See where it says "more smileys.." as a link to the left? Click, expand, and scroll.  Pick one that corresponds most closely to your idea of an interesting conversation.  If it isn't there, please explain what it would be.


       I have pretty broad tastes, buy I'll go with

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/22/2008 9:39:54 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		The discussion is plenty interesting. Important, even!

The points....not so much.

Tim

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/22/2008 10:51:42 AM   
bipolarber


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Status: offline 		Music, I tend to agree with you. (...and I'm as guilty as anyone for falling for this cheap shot crap that a small group of us on here seem to thrive on. Getting too personal with this election BS is how I ended up on Mod XI's "special people" list.) That, and the whole thing is just wearisome. No opinions will be changed, let alone any votes. We all may as well be wrestling with the "tar baby" of folklore: the more we try to hash it out, the worse things get.

45 days to go...  

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/22/2008 11:06:32 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		Music, as much as I appreciate any thread that does not go into politics, this seems to have evoked responses that, shall we say, I doubt you expected. This is CM, so you knew what was going to happen. I pity you not.

Staying off of politics (which seems to be the point I think) I wonder about your handle -
music mystery

I wonder no more as I just had a look at your profile. I was going to say that you look like a good guitar player, but that was before I found out. The bassoon eh ? Know what, before I die I would like to just try to play as many different instruments as possible. Not sure just where to do that. So many music stores I've been to are so concentrated on guitars, amps and keyboards that it would be hard to find one with a bassoon, an alto sax, a tuba (which I started learning to play in highschool).

I can understand that if I want to try out a woodwind I might be required to buy a reed and that is no problem. In fact if I get interested in it I'll buy the whole thing probably. I see lots and lots of guitars and all that, but very few of those "other" instruments. The ones in an orchestra.

Recently I saw an ad for a violin, brand new for eighty bucks. It is supposed to be full size, street legal so to speak and of course comes with the bow. I think I'll be ordering that soon. Though still in the realm of strings, I have not played fretless before except for a steel guitar.  I don't know if that is the exact term for it, but it lays down and you get this weight with which to play it, and the other hand can pick or strum. I've never seen one that was not electric. It did have a fretboard printed, but no frets and the strings would never touch them, it is just a reference. Playing fretless without such a visual reference would be a challenge for me, thus, perhaps I'll order that violin today. I don't care if it is a total piece of junk, all I care is that it works.

HA, you still want to stay out of politics ? I don't get why everybody has to have a Stratocaster, a BC Rich, a LesPaul, in guitars. I have a Washburn, which is the cheapest of the cheap, and it plays almost as well as my Ibanez. I have auditioned plenty of electric pianos, ranging up to seven grand in price, but I wound up with a Privia. It has everything I need, especially the fact that it works. Weighted keys and touch responsive, and the full eighty eight. Five C notes and it is mine.

I am not Liberache(sp) nor am I Joe Satriani. Perhaps people like that deserve and maybe even need to have esoteric equipment, but I don't. My Washburn has absolutely perfect intonation as far as I can tell, and I can tell. I fully know how to setup a guitar for the best action and intonation. When you have the adjustable bridge that cures all ills, even with a mismatched set of strings.

What if you don't have the adjustable bridge ? HA HA HA, know what you do ? You adjust it by selecting the string guages, sometimes even individually. I'll bet nobody knew I know that. But that is how it is done. Yup, the old cheapo Washburn plays just fine.

A buddy of mine, years ago he pissed me off because he wouldn't quiet down at about 3 AM, actually bothering my neighbors. I actually got tired of hearing it and threw him out. He was drunk as all hell and wound up leaving some blood here actually. I regret losing touch with him. He had this piano that had something that needed to be welded, and it was repaired, but he didn't have the money to have it retuned just yet.

I had this little keyboard, and those things are surprisingly accurate when it comes to tuning. I wanted to go tune his piano. Figure out what wrenches or whatever I need and have at it. I am fully aware that of the three strings associated with each note of the piano, only one is tuned perfectly, the others are tuned a Hertz or two off, in opposite directions.

His place would have been perfect unless he got drunk, my new haunt after work. Unfortunately by the time I decided to contact him, he had moved. He is also a sculptor and I comissioned him to do one for me. Never got it, but never paid either, so, so what.

If your mind is not off of politics by now, seek professional help.

T

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/22/2008 11:14:41 AM   
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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/22/2008 11:27:44 AM   
subtee


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

But who can know the ways of the wind and the caribou.


"who has seen the wind
neither you nor I"
 
Oh god no! Yoko Ono's voice, singing

~repeatedly smacks head: hot water burn baby!~

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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/22/2008 2:14:18 PM   
PrincessJ77


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RE: The Recycled Topic Thread - 9/22/2008 3:57:00 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		A re-read of how I opened this thread reveals a careless first sentence.

I'm a political junky. I've no quarrel with discussing politics at all.

But I wish we would then discuss politics, not look for a cheap way to twist a phrase. That's the meaningless part.

And, FYI, I'm also a wicked awesome guitarist.

Tim

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