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ORIGINAL: greeneyes600

Yes i agree.  It is sad though that sometimes doms seem to be shaken by the sub having a strong personality.   I can't count the number of times a dom has said to me 'you aren't a real sub'  just because i have an opinion.

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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although subs who are meek and quiet and do everything they are told without question, have every right to be so, it doesn't mean that those who are not so meek are trying to top from the bottom, it simply means they need to find the dom one step up from them to put them in their place.

You probably won't understand how I felt as I read your words. 

So...since you are a tough cookie, you feel you need the domlier Dominant.  Those who aren't as strong willed as you can settle for those Dominants who need not be so domly.  Sounds rather like Darwin's therory....you, being the strongest submissive will attract those domly Doms, those Doms who are one step up from ordinary and that match your superiority. 

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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although subs who are meek and quiet and do everything they are told without question, have every right to be so, it doesn't mean that those who are not so meek are trying to top from the bottom, it simply means they need to find the dom one step up from them to put them in their place.

You probably won't understand how I felt as I read your words. 

So...since you are a tough cookie, you feel you need the domlier Dominant.  Those who aren't as strong willed as you can settle for those Dominants who need not be so domly.  Sounds rather like Darwin's therory....you, being the strongest submissive will attract those domly Doms, those Doms who are one step up from ordinary and that match your superiority. 

Why don't you just say it like it is?  You are a bratty submissive and rather than submit gracefully, you prefer to be forced into showing your submission.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with your kink.  It also does not make it necessary for you to have the stepped up version of a Dominant.  In a way you are topping from the bottom.  You want and search for that Dominant who will force the submission out of you and in being that way you wish to force the Dominant into acting in a certain way.  A Dominant who expects you to be submissive because that is your nature will not understand why you wish to fight your submission and him.  That does not make him a step lower than you, it just makes him a Dominant who expects his submissive to submit to his will. 

As to opening yourself to hurt when you trust another who does not deserve it...well, that is life.  Those things happen and it shows how strong we are when we can stand up straight, laugh at the a**holes we allowed in our lives, and go on and live a full, productive, and happy life despite them. 

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ORIGINAL: Roselaure

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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although subs who are meek and quiet and do everything they are told without question, have every right to be so, it doesn't mean that those who are not so meek are trying to top from the bottom, it simply means they need to find the dom one step up from them to put them in their place.

You probably won't understand how I felt as I read your words. 

So...since you are a tough cookie, you feel you need the domlier Dominant.  Those who aren't as strong willed as you can settle for those Dominants who need not be so domly.  Sounds rather like Darwin's therory....you, being the strongest submissive will attract those domly Doms, those Doms who are one step up from ordinary and that match your superiority. 

Why don't you just say it like it is?  You are a bratty submissive and rather than submit gracefully, you prefer to be forced into showing your submission.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with your kink.  It also does not make it necessary for you to have the stepped up version of a Dominant.  In a way you are topping from the bottom.  You want and search for that Dominant who will force the submission out of you and in being that way you wish to force the Dominant into acting in a certain way.  A Dominant who expects you to be submissive because that is your nature will not understand why you wish to fight your submission and him.  That does not make him a step lower than you, it just makes him a Dominant who expects his submissive to submit to his will. 

As to opening yourself to hurt when you trust another who does not deserve it...well, that is life.  Those things happen and it shows how strong we are when we can stand up straight, laugh at the a**holes we allowed in our lives, and go on and live a full, productive, and happy life despite them. 

I seem to fall into both categories.  I am by all accounts both strong willed and opinionated.  However, to my Dominant I submit gracefully, cheerfully, and without question. Why can't a girl be both?

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

I believe in the concept of streaks.

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ORIGINAL: greeneyes600

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ORIGINAL: RealSub58

Yes , a woman with a strong personality needs a strong controlling D type and thus intimidatd doms might says "you are not submissive." That is their boundary...doesnt mean he is right or you are wrong for being waht Icall a bitch.

Politeness and respect to a stranger is as important online as it is in meeting a stranger on the street.  That's JMHO. 

I am not a bitch. 
I am not obnoxious...i am not superior...and don't come across as being rude when i chat, so there is no reason for their response other than their insecurities i guess as you say.

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

...This also explains away switches, which I believe do not exist-at least not within the realm of normal, non-skizophrenic behavior.