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DominaErotica00 -> How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 3:01:20 PM)

In My experience and opinion the psychological aspects of the B&D S/M Lifestyle is more important than the physical...as it's said free your mind and the rest will follow! Although having fetishes based upon actual physical scenarios is erotic, fun and sometimes entertaining and I really do enjoy them.To relinquish your mind and give in to being lead down a road to self discovery as a submissive person is the key to fulfillment and a positive experience. Especially when traveling on that journey with someone who understands and follows this way of thinking. It is important to delve into the key to your reason of being...




CalifChick -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 3:20:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DominaErotica00
To relinquish your mind and give in to being lead down a road to self discovery as a submissive person is the key to fulfillment and a positive experience. Especially when traveling on that journey with someone who understands and follows this way of thinking. It is important to delve into the key to your reason of being...


A serious spanking and a hard fucking are the keys to fulfillment for me.  I don't need to delve into the key to my reason of being.


Cali




bluefireroses -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 4:19:44 PM)

It is important for everyone to know where they come from, who they are now, and who they want to be in the future. Any number of theories will illustrate this from Frued to Maslow and beyond.

For me, being submissive isn't about finding my reason for being. I know I have very submissive tendancies, among many other traits to my personality. However, being with One who understands where I am coming from does help.

I had a trainer who once told me that D/s opens unknown doors to all levels of emotions.  Is this what you mean?




shiazn03 -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 4:34:02 PM)

in my opinion, both the psychological and the physical aspect of BDSM are important to me.  i don't think i would fully enjoy a scene with just one without the other, in some way shape or form. 

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LuckyAlbatross -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 4:37:22 PM)

Depends on the scene and where we want to go.  Sometimes it really is just about being fucked like a piece of meat, or not caring who is doing what but we're all doing intense fun stuff.

I don't know that you can ever divorce or ignore mental from physical- but I would not say one is universally better or more important than the other.




catize -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 5:43:12 PM)

 
The psychology of everything fascinates me, not just the BDSM part of life.  My favorite novels are the ones where the author delves into the psyche of the protagonist.  I analyze people’s actions, from my friends to a person standing in front of me at the check out counter.  I analyze myself. 
But give me an intense S+M encounter with lots of sex and Whoo-hoo!  My brain shuts up and just lets me feeeel.




Evility -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 6:08:23 PM)

People talk about the physical, emotional, mental and psychological aspects of bdsm like they are totally separate entities. I have never played not even a single time where all of these things were not in play (pun intended). It's almost impossible to divest one from the rest.






lovingpet -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 6:24:13 PM)

Psychological aspects are extremely important to me.  My mind is a very active place on a constant basis.  That being said, I like the complete experience.  No one is better than the other, but for me there must be some play in the mental and emotional arenas for me to stay engaged.

The pyschological journey is not just for the submissive either.  There are places to explore for the dominant as well.

lovingpet




hereyesruponyou -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 7:43:48 PM)

the best fuck is the mind fuck???




Faramir -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/19/2008 9:31:32 PM)

The psychological and spiritual elements are what give meaning to the physicl acts for me.  A crude exmple: a pro forma blow job is meaningless-her sucking me off because it makes her feel like a good little girl to suck and please, and because she loves me, well, that's all there is to it.




softness -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 2:00:34 AM)

Both need to be present for it to be fully satisfying for me .. I can enjoy a sound beating .. and I can enjoy an intellectual connection or a mind fuck ... but to really get my rocks off I need the person hurting me to be inside my head.

I say hurting .. because more sensual play ... I *cannot* enjoy that without an intellectual or emotional connection with the Top .. I am just left cold by it otherwise




ExSteelAgain -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 4:00:10 AM)

Going along with what Softness said. I can play without thought or feeling, but it is not as good as when I know the girl, her desires, weaknesses and she knows me. That’s a lot of the fun and passion for me. So, yes, psychological (along with intellectual compatibility) aspects are important.
 
So many things are based on our pasts that have resulted in our desires that we would be foolish to ignore the whole idea when we set a scene up.
 
What if I knew a submissive had a fetish for locks, wouldn’t it be an erotic thing to lock her in chains? If I know she has rape fantasies, I may gear my play that way. It’s not exactly role play, but a mindset I’ll have as I lead the activity.
 
Taking it further into your question, I would also set the tone by talking and playing up to this fetish. I would tell her what I would do to her, show her the chain, maybe lock one around her neck to begin with and so on.




DesFIP -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 6:23:51 AM)

What on earth is "a key to my reason for being". We're here because our parents had babies. And what's wrong with a hard spanking and incredible sex? Why isn't that good enough?

As far as that psychological, you must have had early trauma to enjoy this nonsense? Nope, this is good, clean physical fun. Well, clean for me because I'm not a fan of WAM.




kallisto -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 7:54:20 AM)

Psychological, physical, mental, emotional ... it's all got to be there for me.   That's what works for me.   Certainly doesn't mean it will work for anyone else.  Although I don't mean that I have to figure out my self worth.  It just means that my head needs to be screwed on straight and I want to be into Him as much as He is to me.   If we're clicking on all accounts, then everything will fall into place.   No need to over think anything. 




petpete -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 2:28:47 PM)

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For me its the psychology of the person who takes charge of me that makes me boil inside




greeneyes600 -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 2:39:08 PM)

the mental side is everything for me....




DominaErotica00 -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 3:17:24 PM)

If a serious fuck and a hard spanking is good enough for you then that's your desires and decisions, I have no problem with that nor am I being judgemental. That's the beauty of diversity..some people feel the way you do and some lean more towards the psychological.




CreativeDominant -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 3:18:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Evility

People talk about the physical, emotional, mental and psychological aspects of bdsm like they are totally separate entities. I have never played not even a single time where all of these things were not in play (pun intended). It's almost impossible to divest one from the rest.



I agree that for me, there is little division of the aspects of physical, emotional or mental aspects of BDSM just as there is little division on the D/s side.  During a scene, one aspect may come into play more than the others but for me, each facet adds to the other facets, making the play more 3-dimensional.  In the D/s dynamic just the positions we are in adds a mental and emotional factor that is emphasized by the occasional, sometimes momentary, physical expression of those positions.

Usually...when you consider the relationship of the two people involved in what appears to be just a good hard spanking, you know that though what is going on is mainly physical there are mental and emotional processes going on before, during, and/ or shortly afterwards.




DominaErotica00 -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 4:12:11 PM)

It is understandable that not everyone is going to understand or agree with what I said, really did not expect them to. In My post here I did say that I also enjoy and agree with the physical aspects of the scene and it's very fulfilling to Me. The creativity and art of the esthetics is a great part of why I love indulging in scene play...As far as the comment made here by DesFIP asking Me ..."What on earth is "a key to my reason of being". Well, obviously you missed the whole point of the psychological level of this Lifestyle if you have to ask. What I meant by "a key to the reason of My being" is the deeper level as to why a person is here as a sub or Domme and dealing with the substance of where it comes from and to release and enjoy the ride of self discovery, not who we were born from of course that's from your Mom and Dad!.... DesFIP also asked if I had early trauma to enjoy this nonsense. First of all trauma was "not" the reason why I entered into this Lifestyle as a Domme. I was and always will be intrigued with the human mind and how it ticks. I like to know why we lead the lives that we do and where it all came from mentally. I am facinated with having indepth conversations with people in and out the scene regarding psychology, our emotions and spiritual connections. It's sad that you consider it "nonsense", then what is your point of even being involved if you think this way. Being in wonderment about the psychological side is good clean fun too and allows us to better innerstand us as human beings. I am not one to just pick up a whip and just whack on someone just for the sake of doing it, I am curious as to what's behind it. The psychological, emotional, mental are the more non tangible aspects and mesh together. The physical is underneath all of them and also plays an important part as far as I am concerned. I have come across numerous people that only enjoy having their minds tapped into and being controlled without anything physical and totally get off on that....to each is own! I can't imagine there are not alot of people that need to find out what makes them tick inside. There are numerous amounts of people that are actually curious and on a mission to figure this out for themselves, and I think that is very healthy and necessary. Some people are afraid to even go there in fear of what they might find...in comes denial! As I said before, free your mind and the rest will follow....




CalifChick -> RE: How important is the scenes psychological aspect to you? (9/20/2008 4:14:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaErotica00

If a serious fuck and a hard spanking is good enough for you then that's your desires and decisions, I have no problem with that nor am I being judgemental. That's the beauty of diversity..some people feel the way you do and some lean more towards the psychological.


I was trying, apparently not very well, to lighten up the seemingly very heavy statement you made about keys to the reason of your being, the keys to fulfillment and a positive experience, etc.

I don't separate them, and I don't get deeply into the key to the "reason for my being."


Cali




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