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Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 9:41:03 AM

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It was a rather interesting discussion around the dinner table last night...

Considering how you feel about the OJ murder trial...either justice was served or he got away with murder...could you be totally impartial as a juror for his current trial?

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 9:45:49 AM

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Probably, but it would take a lot of work for me to consider only the evidence presented in regards to the present case and to ignore what I already know about the individual. I suppose all jurors go through the same mental exercise.

I would definitely not enjoy it - jury duty would scare the hell out of me. Too much responsibility.

And you?

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 9:50:20 AM

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i doubt i could be impartial, Kittin. My feeling with the murder trial was he was guilty and i am ashamed to admit i would approach the verdict with a "now your time has come" attitude.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 9:50:28 AM

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I never could. I'd be sitting there, thinking about how that prick got away with killing his ex, and her boyfriend... I'd be voting the death penalty, if the bastard was up for a parking violation!

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 10:00:27 AM

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It's understandable to feel that way, Holly. We're human beings after all. That's why jury duty in general must be difficult, and as you say, doubly so in Simpson's case.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 10:01:44 AM

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Actually, I think I could. That was that and this is this.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 10:13:01 AM

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There was a time when I could NOT sit on a jury.

I think today I could.

As to OJ, I would not want the stress of a high profile jury assignment.

As to being pre slanted... I would try to consider all the facts.

I probaly would get kicked off tho- as I would want to handwrite notes. ..and when the lawyers are doing the nonsense talk I would be compelled to take control of the run a muckness and myself ask the questions.
That isnt how it is done tho.... so I would be in contempt.

We have some local trials going on that ...alot is riding on. Certainly I would pull the "go to jail" lever myself.... tho - I also would not want to rail road someone.

Chances are if a jury trial is needed in the 4 county area--- the dude is quilty......

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 10:19:42 AM

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It would be hard we may have to deliberate over extended periods and our isolation from external forces would required us to stay at a five star hotel with mini bar.

How many people though Michael Jackson was going to be found guilty with his reputation? I think juries do quite well to consider only the facts of the case rather than the history of the person. Besides which the defence will jury select and filter out a lot of people with negative opinions and some idiots think OJ was innocent of murder, even after he tried to publish a book saying how he would have done it.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 11:04:15 AM

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Sadly, OJ will be hounded to the grave but surely any emotion that can be whipped up against him is of value in some quarters at the moment, given the wider context.

I find the release of the klansman who tortured and murdered two civil rights workers in 1964 to be much more disturbing - and maybe even a better picture of the wider culture over there - than a jealous lover.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/09/conviction.overturned/index.html

The irony is, if this murderous reptile Seale served on OJ's jury, he'd return a fairly predictable verdict but if in return he was on Seale's case, I think OJ would probably show leniency.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 11:08:52 AM

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I would go on the facts in THIS case. I have to. It is called Responsibility, Character.

I really think He DID kill Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. I can honestly say whether he was white, pink, or polka dot I seriously think he did it. Based from all the evidence in the trial. I don't care what name you have the evidence to me supported that He was/is guilty.

In the end it really doesn't matter what we think it matters what a higher power thinks..take that as you will..

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 11:19:38 AM

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quote:

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Sadly, OJ will be hounded to the grave but surely any emotion that can be whipped up against him is of value in some quarters at the moment, given the wider context.

I find the release of the klansman who tortured and murdered two civil rights workers in 1964 to be much more disturbing - and maybe even a better picture of the wider culture over there - than a jealous lover.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/09/conviction.overturned/index.html

The irony is, if this murderous reptile Sears served on OJ's jury, he'd return a fairly predictable verdict but if OJ was on Sears' case, I think he'd be probably be lenient.

Reality, I think you're mixing apples and oranges there.
Plus, that's a lot of speculation on what would happen "if."
I could sit on that jury.
I'd consider *only* what the state and the defense presented.
I'd look at the case individually.
If I voted for a guilty verdict it would be on the evidence presented and not what may or may not have happened 14 years ago.
The same for a not guilty verdict, if the state didn't prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt I'd vot not guilty.
I don't know O.J. Simpson personally so I have no interest in him.
Everytime I flipped through the stations while his murder case was going on if I landed on it I'd go to another channel.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 11:33:08 AM

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There are a lot of "ifs" in my post, its true. But the OP does ask us to speculate on whether we could give him a fair trial. I just turned it on its head: would OJ himself be objective in a racially-charged case? I think so. I also think that it's part of some new mass amnesia to pretend racial politics didn't impact on his case.

BTW, A fair trial includes real evidence and honest testimony by investigating officers, yet OJ is still blamed for the police "fitting him up" - as we say on the sceptred isle. Wasn't he freed because of doubts about the police evidence?

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 11:39:39 AM

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In law the standard of evidence for guilt is much higher than the general publics standard for guilt. As I said the only evidence I'm going by is the fact he is so intellectually challenged he thought describing how he would have done it in a book was a good idea.

People that thick should not be walking the streets because a dangerous lamp post may hurt them.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 11:53:33 AM

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quote:

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In law the standard of evidence for guilt is much higher than the general publics standard for guilt. As I said the only evidence I'm going by is the fact he is so intellectually challenged he thought describing how he would have done it in a book was a good idea.

People that thick should not be walking the streets because a dangerous lamp post may hurt them.

Raechard, he *was* a football player.
I worked with a guy in the insurance industry who was a "History major."
He played football in college too.
I once asked him what the Magna Carta was all about.
His reply; "How would I know, I played football!"
I wonder what O.J. Simpson has a "degree" in?
Dollars to donuts it's not physics or engineering.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 12:30:25 PM

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just to mention- if the glove does not fit- you must aquit.

the gasp from his trial outcome could be felt around the world.

he this very minute, is frantically looking for the "real killer"... note that one if his meds made his fingers swell up so the glove did not fit.

But many blacks viewed this as the come-around for many who were falsely accused. I can understand the urge..

When I see OJ- I see an old has been. I see a burned out shell of what used to be.   He- even in glory
days..can not escape the fate that you and I do-- ie we age.

Poor NiCole, poor Ron.   If that was me my spirit would loiter around and huant the attacker.
and yet- as long as I live I will never ever understand the beaten womans syndrom that lets them return for more abuse.

She sadly was not allowed to age.

SHAME on that beast!

hell NO.   Ild slam him in jail.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 2:21:46 PM

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Funny thing....My father was a prominent criminal defense attorney and I have seen a lot of trials. I was exposed to the assumption of innocence until guilt is proven on an almost daily basis and, I could not serve on the O.J. jury. I think that is the only one I couldn't sit on. I would sit looking for retribution for my thoughts on his murder trial. I am a bit amazed at my narrow mindedness, I know better, was raised to think differently and hate to admit my thoughts on the issue.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 2:36:47 PM

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Sure, why not?
The law and jury did what it had to in the past, and, as much as I disagree with the decision, it was made properly. Of course there were people on the jury that believed the same, but, there were also people who thought he was innocent. This is precisely why we don't have a jury of 1. That, now, is the past, and no amount of hatred or vindication is going to change anything. So, knowing that, I think I could easily serve on the jury. Perhaps with a bit of confusion as to why people are still yammering about this has been, but, fairly nevertheless.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 2:52:32 PM

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quote:

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Funny thing....My father was a prominent criminal defense attorney and I have seen a lot of trials. I was exposed to the assumption of innocence until guilt is proven on an almost daily basis and, I could not serve on the O.J. jury. I think that is the only one I couldn't sit on. I would sit looking for retribution for my thoughts on his murder trial. I am a bit amazed at my narrow mindedness, I know better, was raised to think differently and hate to admit my thoughts on the issue.

ya just went down hill after you bought that first pair of brown pants....

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 3:15:52 PM

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quote:

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Wasn't he freed because of doubts about the police evidence?

OJ was freed essentially because those cops were acquitted in the Rodney King beating. Had that event not preceded the Simpson trial I think he probably would have been found guilty. A year after the Simpson acquittal came Proposition 209. Coincidence? I think not.

Could I be impartial? Yes. Would I? No, because I'd make sure I was not included in the jury pool so that I did not have to sit in the same courtroom with that piece of shit.

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RE: Could you be on the OJ jury? - 9/14/2008 4:18:38 PM

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If we feel that jurors may have a problem being fair and impartial, what about the defense attorney's problem. Absent anything else, only if a juror says that he or she cannot be fair and impartial will the defense be able to challenge "for cause." If a juror is adamant about being able to be fair and impartial, absent anything else, the defense attorney can only use "a peremptory" challenge and he only has a few of those. If a juror says he or she has no preconceived feelings whatsoever, I would suspect that the attorney would not believe it. Probably the attorneys would welcome those potential jurors who say that they are going to have a problem. The attorney could explain why it is important to set aside any feelings and perhaps get the juror excused "for cause" if the juror's position turns out to be intractable.. Overall the defense attorney probably drinks, a lot.

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