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CPR-style breath play - 9/5/2008 8:01:14 AM

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I'm gonna be shocked if we're the first people to do this, but I just accidentally came up with it on my own last night and had to share, because the effects were amazing.

Babe and I like a fair bit of breath play. She likes to be choked and have the air cut off from her and so on. I've done this various ways - hands (or rope, etc) around her neck, plastic or pillows over her face, usually just my hand covering her mouth and pinching her nose shut. We know that it's fairly dangerous, so we've never gone too far with it. Despite her desire to be choked out, I don't let it happen. Besides, when she starts to get close to that point she thrashes and pushes me away anyway.

So there's some oxygen cut off, but it really boils down to me making her hold her breath and letting her breath when she needs to. Now don't get me wrong, we really enjoy this, but it's never been quite satisfying for either of us.

Last night I came up with something new.

We were lying in bed together and I was playing with her hair. As it tends to, that led to me going for her mouth and neck, but nothing for any sort of duration. Then we started kissing, and that's when I got the idea to start breathing for her. I had it a few seconds before she did, which is why I didn't let her pull away when she was trying to, but fortunately she caught on quickly as well.

Basically, to start, I was just pinching her nose shut and holding her mouth shut by keeping mine over it. Effectively, what we've done before, just a different covering over her mouth.

It was fairly easy - I inhale through my mouth and it would suck the air out of her lungs. She had some level of control for it, but less than you'd think. So I pull her air into my lungs, then exhale through my nose. Inhale through my nose, and exhale through my mouth, which she breathes in through there. And then we repeat.

It was frickin' awesome.

I had complete control over her breathing. She got to breath when I decided she could, as well as how much I wanted her to. If I didn't want her to get much air, she wouldn't. If I wanted to overfill her lungs, I could. Fortunately for us, I have a much greater lung capacity than she does (I'm a cyclist, she's a smoker), so I could easily handle moving adequate air in and out of her.

Further, I don't see any real limits to doing this. At one point, we were going on like that for a good 5 minutes or so until we lost the rhythm and broke the seal. Neither of us was any worse for wear - no dizziness or lightheadedness, nothing.

I think it's even pretty safe in that she's always getting air. This isn't a form of breathplay that prevents her from breathing like most things do, it just controls when she's allowed to. I mean, this basically is CPR, or at least part of it. Plus, the seal is just our mouths pressed together so it's extremely easy for her to break if she needs to, just flexing her mouth a little bit is sufficient.

Naturally, all of this quickly led to fucking, where I did it again. As soon as I pulled the air out of her lungs, she came like a rocket and accused me of cheating for finding a new way to get her off so fast.

Later as we were talking about it, we both basically said "Duh. I can't believe I didn't think of this sooner." So I had to race off and share it with you all here.

As always, it's still a relatively dangerous activity, so be careful with it. It doesn't seem that dangerous to me, but of course, I'm not a medical doctor so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Regardless, it's much safer than any alternative we'd come up with. I highly recommend it! We're pleased as punch.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/5/2008 8:10:23 AM

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oooooooooooooo, i like that! i'm gonna copy & paste it to Master. So far we've only used His cock for breath control, and it is wonderful, of course, but there's nothing wrong with Your way either :) Thanks!
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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/5/2008 8:21:39 AM

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No, you're not the first to stumble upon this... and yes, it's way hot.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/7/2008 11:42:30 AM

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Thanks sooooooooo much! We tried it while i was in the stocks and it worked great! What a rush! We both enjoyed this technique very much.
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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/7/2008 2:24:40 PM

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Go to the BDSM Body section, where you will find an article on breath play, and the "breath sharing" section is exactly what you're doing.

The article covers some of the safety things you should be aware of, like the fact that you're partner isn't getting as much oxygen as she would if she were breathing normally (exhaled air contains about 16% oxygen not 21%, and an increased level of CO2) and the problems of potential over filling of lungs.

This is a *safer* way to do breath play, but, it's still risky.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/13/2008 10:33:24 PM

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I've got an idea. How about we don't listen to anyone who does breath play with a rope. Bad idea. It could collapse the trachea.

Also, where does anyone get off learning about an activity where you could potentially kill someone online? If you want to do this safely with your partner(s) you should really find someone experienced who is willing to teach you. Accidents happen and will send you to jail. (Not only that -- they give BDSM a bad public image. :p)

ps. OP didn't come up with this himself. It has been done before.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/13/2008 11:53:10 PM

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It doesn't sound like the OP thinks he is the first to come up with the idea, but only that it was the first time that they experienced it and hadn't heard of it before.

Lots and lots of things could be potentially bad ideas. We do them anyway. I have learned lots of things online, yes they could potentially "kill" someone but I guess I weigh the risks vs. potential benefit/fun factor before delving into such activities. Yes, this shared breathing does sound risky, as does the breath play with the rope, alongs with many other facets of breath play. Me personally, I freaking love it. We don't take things too far for us. Granted, its a rare rare treat indeed, but loved just the same.

Thanks OP, for helping me find answers, and sharing your experience. I'm so sharing this with Daddy and we'll see how it goes!

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/14/2008 1:17:48 AM

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Yes I agree with Ivy, the bigger danger in doing this for too long is actually the increased carbon dioxide levels which upsets the very complex set of mechanisms by which the body controls breathing. It could suppress her breathing reflex making it harder for her to kickstart a normal rhythm again. It's true that the oxygen levels are also reduced (obviously, as the first breather's lungs took out what they needed), and that lower partial pressure makes it harder for the receiver's lungs to extract as much as they need. Really important that the first breather gets a totally fresh breath each time, not recycling air back and forth between them. Yes, it's "safer" than choking but not "safe" ... it carries risks. Be aware!

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/14/2008 5:58:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: IvyMorgan

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Go to the BDSM Body section, where you will find an article on breath play, and the "breath sharing" section is exactly what you're doing.

The article covers some of the safety things you should be aware of, like the fact that you're partner isn't getting as much oxygen as she would if she were breathing normally (exhaled air contains about 16% oxygen not 21%, and an increased level of CO2) and the problems of potential over filling of lungs.

This is a *safer* way to do breath play, but, it's still risky.

We love doing the breath sharing. it's almost like a ritual of trust. very hot indeed. and yes i am aware that i am not getting as much oxygen but trust master to release me from the process after a sensible time.
i usually start to orgasm even as we begin to do it.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/14/2008 8:38:57 AM

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I am *so* sharing this with Master, this sounds as hot as anything - also the concerns noted above about safety, i think He'd rather make us both cum as hard as possible whilst ensuring as much safety as He can than to damage either me accidently! Besides, He prefers the damage done by His riding crop usually.

Very interesting post and responses - thanks everyone :)

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/14/2008 8:58:00 AM

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We all know that breath play increases orgasm intensity.
However accidents do happen and some people don't live to tell the tale so be careful.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/14/2008 9:20:43 AM

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Yes, we do lots of things that could potentially kill someone. The key is risk reduction. Driving a car could potentially kill us, but we don't blast through stop lights while giving the finger to biker gangs.

I do some edgy, edgy stuff. I do lengthy piercings scenes. I do breathplay. I - and this raises eyebrows even amongst most kinky people - am a big fan of fucking people with sharp knives. But I learned how to do these things with proper supervision, knowing how to do it as safely as possible. The internet isn't proper supervision, and a lot of the things suggested in the OP and elsewhere in this thread are recklessly dangerous, not just "risky." Y'know, the kind of stuff we hear about on the news and go "you idiot, you just made us all look bad and your wife is dead, have fun in prison." That kind of stuff.

Don't do breathplay with rope. Please.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/14/2008 9:33:21 AM

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I'm not sure how this got hijacked into rope and necks, but going back to the op's question - yes, he does this to me also. But I will say that it isn't as immediate a turn on as having his hand on my neck. Or his teeth in my neck. I've come to discover that it isn't breath play per se that does it to me, it's him having my neck in his control.

I melt if while we're walking around he just plays with the back of my neck.
I melt if he wraps his big hand around the back of my neck.
I stop thinking and get that dazed look the moment he bites my neck.
I moan if he wraps his big hand around the front of my neck, not tight, just resting it there.

What can I say? My neck is an immediate trigger point, play with it and I'm a goner.

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RE: CPR-style breath play - 9/14/2008 10:00:39 AM

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Very good point and we will be careful - promise <grin>

On another part of the topic, i agree with the previous post that hands on neck are a HUGE trigger and it doesn't have to be breath play associated per se for it to be effective.

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