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Lottery strategy? - 8/29/2008 7:41:25 PM

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A woman and her husband, who claims he's developed a formula for lottery picks, have each claimed $350,000 jackpots.

Twice.

Verlyn and Judith Adamson claimed two $350,000 jackpots on Monday because each held a winning ticket in the state SuperCash drawing last Saturday. They didn't mention at the time that they also held two more of the winning tickets.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26350662/

Wonder what the strategy is..... *suspects voodoo or cheating*

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/29/2008 8:38:30 PM

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Mine?

Don`t play.

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/29/2008 9:29:30 PM

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There's no such thing. The only winning strategy is not to play.

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/29/2008 11:24:30 PM

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If the lottery draw is really random then this is just hot air. However there could be something going on that would make the draw non random. But somebody holding 4 identical winners to the same drawing isn't evidence of anything besides that they bought the same numbers 4 times. They need to correctly hit the winners several times or release the "system" for examination.

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/29/2008 11:43:22 PM

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There's no such thing. The only winning strategy is not to play.

No, that is the only certain losing strategy. I can guarentee you won't win. 100% certainty.

Look I am a computer geek, and I have in my days spent many many cpu hours of analysis on winning lotteries.

like dice, I can tell you there is an affinity (why? dunno) for 5, 7 11.

I can tell you that there are more class 3,. 5 and 6 numbers (as I define them) and can tell you where 80% of the lottery winners are not.

I can tell you that 81% + of all lottery winners are quick picks.

I can guarentee you that if you give me 20k a week, in 20 years you will come out ahead on the lottery. I cant tell you when. but I can cut it to in those 20 years.

I can tell you about orion constructs (we went to constellation based forms) (you would have had to been there) will contain most of the winners (by an overwhelming margin) in the lottery.

I can tell you the common 'reach' that will win.

But I am going to give you the best winners I can.

never pick birthdays, they aint lucky and any numbers that win mean you have to share with 1 to n people.

123456 has an equal chance as do all other 0 reach constructs, but the sun will burn out of the sky before yu will ever win on it.

if you play some number that you pick randomly.......say 1 5 11 39 42 56 and pass it from generation to generation as long as a lottery exists, at some point your progenitors will become rich, whether they have the werewithal to pass it to another generation as well as the number which in the fullness of time which will hit more than once not just a guess (a certainty) then you will have guarenteed to your some (n) generation a steady unfailing income.......

Other than that? Well, I fuck with that all the time, but I believe you would be better served by drinking that money up.

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/30/2008 2:43:16 AM

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I'm not buying it...

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/30/2008 5:16:40 AM

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I have "won" a few grand in the last five or so years by folding. That is NOT betting.

The thing about winning is this - win big, lose small. For this the payoff needs to be close to the odds. If you play a four digit straight the true payoff should be $10,000 if there is no "house" edge. You usually don't even get one tenth of that.

Not even going into the odds of a lotto type drawing, and the totally ridiculous disparity between odds and payoff, most lottos are paramutual. They learned that from bookies in one city. In 1976 a whole lot of people played 976, and it came in. The bookies had to go to loan sharks to pay off.

In a paramutual prize, you share a common "pot" with the other winners. Therefore the only disadvantage you can actually abate is to play numbers, that if they hit, nobody else plays, or at least the fewest number of people.

Birthdays, dates, many other things all have one thing in common. The numbers are all under 31, so play numbers over 31. They have an equal chance of hitting of course, but because alot of people do play dates, you are likely to share it with fewer people.

This does not change the fact that it is a sucker bet. By the time they announce the jackpot is $40 million, they have taken in $400 million.

It has also been proven to me that the results are not random, and I can see why. There are some numbers so commonly played that sharing the jackpot would make the futility of playing the lottery obvious to many more people.

Further proof was before my own eyes a long time ago on TV. I know video technology, and I am very observant. On TV I saw the Ohio lotto drawing start, and then stop. I KNOW what the old four track video recorders do when they go out of sync, and I saw it. I saw the first number drawn, and then either the tape was stopped or the machine jammed up or something. I KNOW THIS because I know what I am talking about, it is my job to know these things.

They put up a message "technical difficulties" and gave the results later. The number that I SAW drawn did not appear in the results. People assume the drawing is live, but I know for a fact that it is not. They can load any tape they want on that machine, and edit the video perfectly with the announcer giving the date, and then just play the tape. Has anyone ever seen a lotto drawing in person ? The answer is no.

They say "The results are certified by ________" but they do not say at any time that they are random. There are 11 million people in this state, and it is not inconcievable that 20,000 of them could play the same number. There is no way they could let that number hit.

Business is business.

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/30/2008 7:27:32 AM

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All four were purchased at different locations, but with the same numbers and for the same drawing.

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He claims he developed a formula for lottery picks, but his winnings have been small until now.

System my arse.
If they are the only ones that won then they wasted time buying four tickets.

Do you pick the numbers that always come up believing that they will come up more often or do you pick the numbers that never come up thinking they are bound to come up sooner or later?

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/30/2008 7:05:41 PM

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Not quite Raech. If the prize is paramutual that gives them four shares out of who knows how many. However there is no reason that they would have to play them in different places, one outlet would be fine.

Playing them in different places indicates that they believe that it is not random at all. They might be onto something really, but with the odds and payoffs stacked the way the are, it takes light 12 minutes to get to you from a level playing field. (It takes light about eight minutes to get here from the Sun at 93 million miles away)

I believe it is not random. In Ohio at least they have never ever used the word random, not once.

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/30/2008 8:58:02 PM

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Hi.

I agree with NumberSix and Termyn8or because I've witnessed the same. Thanx for those smart comments guys.

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/30/2008 9:03:50 PM

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NumberSix, all you're doing is data mining. If you have a large enough data set, patterns begin to appear when you look hard enough.

Some questions: How strong is the tendency for 5, 7, and 11 to appear? Have you tried calculating the probability of such a result coming about, assuming the null hypothesis that the number distribution is purely random? What's the overall percent of lotto players who go with quick picks? What makes you so sure that in 20 years the systems used to generate lotto numbers won't change, completely altering any preexisting tendencies?

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RE: Lottery strategy? - 8/30/2008 9:40:53 PM

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Whoa, this numbers talk is sexy.

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