Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: More Change to Believe In


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: More Change to Believe In Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 8:18:51 PM   
gina0055


Posts: 111
Joined: 11/17/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59



Yeah ,they both were on the same charity board.

Oh wow. Obviously, Obama is a terrorist.

Is that the message?

~~~~~~~~~~

Anyone who claims they were friends, is a straight up lier and eats shit.

Just one more ad from the lunatic fringe,bearing fear and appealing to the darkest sides of folks.

Your basic republican offering.

Are you  guys nearing the bottom of the barrel,yet?Probably not.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This,coming from people who want the Iraq occupation to last forever.......,is all the more disgusting.





BINGO! 

OBAMA 08!

(in reply to Owner59)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 8:27:48 PM   
Thadius


Posts: 5091
Joined: 10/11/2005
Status: offline
quote:

"People keep trying to align himself with Barrack Obama" Daley said. "It's really unfortunate. They're friends. So what? People do make mistakes in the past. You move on. This is a new century, a new time. He reflects back and he's been making a strong contribution to our community."

Mayor Daley is a liar?

_____________________________

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends." ~ Japanese Proverb

(in reply to gina0055)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 8:41:59 PM   
Vendaval


Posts: 10297
Joined: 1/15/2005
Status: offline 		The Washington Post, fact checker
 
By Michael Dobbs

"The only hard facts that have come out so far are the $200 contribution by Ayers to the Obama re-election fund, and their joint membership of the eight-person Woods Fund Board. Ayers did not respond to e-mails and telephone calls requesting clarification of the relationship. Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:

"Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous."


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html


_____________________________

"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


http://KinkMeet.co.uk

(in reply to SilverWulf)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 8:53:57 PM   
Thadius


Posts: 5091
Joined: 10/11/2005
Status: offline 		V,

I am not judging Obama based on what happened when he was 8.  That is a dodge of the issue at hand, as Ayers has never apologized, and has stated in recent days that he wished that they had done more.


His own campaign has stated they were friends, the Mayor of Chicago has stated that the 2 were friends, and just this week were boxes upon boxes of files released about their handling of one of the other boards the 2 of them belonged to.  Which has been accused of being a failure and not all that frugal with the money...

I think that is about as polite as I can state it.

I wish you well,
Thadius

_____________________________

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends." ~ Japanese Proverb

(in reply to Vendaval)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 9:11:28 PM   
Vendaval


Posts: 10297
Joined: 1/15/2005
Status: offline 		I am not understanding which two persons were involved in the boards and the files and the mishandling of money.  Do you mean the mayor and Ayers or Ayers and Senator Obama?  (Not all of us are up to date on Chicago political shenanigians)

_____________________________

"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


http://KinkMeet.co.uk

(in reply to Thadius)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 9:13:36 PM   
SilverWulf


Posts: 196
Joined: 4/7/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I am not understanding which two persons were involved in the boards and the files and the mishandling of money.  Do you mean the mayor and Ayers or Ayers and Senator Obama?  (Not all of us are up to date on Chicago political shenanigians)


Ayers and Obama.

Boxes full of files were recently released that are being gone through now, should be interesting.

(in reply to Vendaval)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 9:18:12 PM   
sasseeNshy


Posts: 120
Joined: 4/12/2008
Status: offline 		I read your posts regarding your upcoming elections, and actually just had a conversation today, how us Canadians differ.  We get less than 2 months notice that the shyt may hit the fan up here.  Unfortunately, or fortunately, we tend to realize the sad reality is whatever we do is not really going to make a difference.  Politicians are politicans.  Say what it takes...then backtrack.  I'm surprised by the difference between the intensity of our two elections.....up here...the thin air...frigid temperatures, melting igloos....good weed....man we just don't seem to care quite as much...or do we know it and realize it just doesn't matter?

Edited.....bad bad spelling...ooops

< Message edited by sasseeNshy -- 8/28/2008 9:20:34 PM >

(in reply to Vendaval)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 9:18:47 PM   
Thadius


Posts: 5091
Joined: 10/11/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I am not understanding which two persons were involved in the boards and the files and the mishandling of money.  Do you mean the mayor and Ayers or Ayers and Senator Obama?  (Not all of us are up to date on Chicago political shenanigians)


Obama and Ayers. 

Annenberg funded a project in Chicago for school reform, Ayers and Obama were the 2 in charge of the program.  Incidently, Annenberg also is the owner and financer of the factcheck website.  Anyways, they have been fighting to keep those records sealed.

One commentator talks about the recent article in the Chicago Tribune..

quote:

Completely unmentioned is whether documents held at a state-run university's library, about a project to reform and improve public school systems, relating to a public figure who wants to be the next president, can be withheld from the public's eyes.


_____________________________

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends." ~ Japanese Proverb

(in reply to Vendaval)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 9:27:54 PM   
Vendaval


Posts: 10297
Joined: 1/15/2005
Status: offline 		SilverWulf,
 
Do you have some links and references handy, please?

_____________________________

"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


http://KinkMeet.co.uk

(in reply to SilverWulf)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 9:30:08 PM   
Thadius


Posts: 5091
Joined: 10/11/2005
Status: offline 		Here is one about the papers being released... remember there is a bit of spin to it (there is an art to reading a Chicago newspaper).

http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/dnc/1127918,ayers082608.article

_____________________________

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends." ~ Japanese Proverb

(in reply to Vendaval)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 10:00:19 PM   
Vendaval


Posts: 10297
Joined: 1/15/2005
Status: offline 		Is it as bad as The New York Post or The Weekly World News ?

_____________________________

"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


http://KinkMeet.co.uk

(in reply to Thadius)
Profile   Post #: 31
RE: More Change to Believe In - 8/28/2008 10:08:27 PM   
Thadius


Posts: 5091
Joined: 10/11/2005
Status: offline 		It depends on how much you have pissed them off.

_____________________________

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends." ~ Japanese Proverb

(in reply to Vendaval)
Profile   Post #: 32
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2]
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: More Change to Believe In Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.063