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outlier -> The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/18/2008 11:33:50 PM)

Beloit College Mindset List

Originally designed as a list for professors to be aware of so
they would "watch their references" it has become a bit of a
cultural  phenomenon and a source of fun. 

What do you think of this new list?  Past lists?
After you link, you can choose a year in the drop down window.

Remember the four year 4 year delay. 
Freshman this year are the class of 2012 list

Quotes:

"This is the 11th  year that Beloit College has assembled these observations that help to identify  the experiences that have shaped the lives-and formed the mindset-of students,  starting their post-secondary education this fall."

"The Beloit College Mindset List was initially a witty way of saying  "watch your references," and has turned into a globally reported and utilized guide to the intelligent but unprepared adolescent  consciousness.   It is requested by thousands of readers, reprinted in  hundreds of print and electronic publications, and used for a wide  variety of purposes.  The name is now licensed to a higher education  group in New Zealand that produces its own list each year."

"The Mindset List is not a  chronological listing of things that happened in 1990, the year they were born.  It is instead an effort to identify the worldview of 18 year-olds in the fall of 2008. Of course, our students come from many backgrounds and different  traditions and these generalizations may not apply to all. The list identifies  the experiences and event horizons of students and is not meant to reflect on  their preparatory education."

"It is also not deliberately designed to make readers feel really old"



http://www.beloit.edu/mindset/


Outlier







Vendaval -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/18/2008 11:39:41 PM)

Fun post, outlier.  The one that scares me is -

#2 Since they were in diapers, karaoke machines have been annoying people at parties.





cpK69 -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 1:48:33 AM)


This reminds me of the generation X list that shows up here from time to time. It’s interesting to note the changes from one generation to the next, and a good idea to be mindful of those changes.
 
Kim (whose oldest son was born in 1990.) :)




Nikolette -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 2:31:22 AM)

My response is something is amok with that site.

It said: The people starting college this fall (2002) across the nation were born in 1980.

But my HS grad year was 2002... and I was born in 1983. Thus I would have started college that fall, 2002, and wasn't born in 1980. It had 1983 people starting college 3 years later...?!

Same weird error in 3 years for my slave and best friend.

So I donno. I checked my math and the site several times, but it doesn't doesn't connect up correctly. Am I doing something stupid?





Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 2:39:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikolette

My response is something is amok with that site.

It said: The people starting college this fall (2002) across the nation were born in 1980.

But my HS grad year was 2002... and I was born in 1983. Thus I would have started college that fall, 2002, and wasn't born in 1980. It had 1983 people starting college 3 years later...?!

Same weird error in 3 years for my slave and best friend.

So I donno. I checked my math and the site several times, but it doesn't doesn't connect up correctly. Am I doing something stupid?


No, nothing stupid. Might have missed a decimnal point or something equally as innocent (mind you, the Repubs know for a fact you are purposefully distorting blah blah blah...)

Anyway, you really resemble (or she resembles you) Bjork in the eyes. Absolutely gorgeous. Stunning.




cpK69 -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 2:41:12 AM)


It says the list for those graduating in 2002 were born in 1980.… the year it’s self was not 2002.
 
Kimberly




thishereboi -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 6:33:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

No, nothing stupid. Might have missed a decimnal point or something equally as innocent (mind you, the Repubs know for a fact you are purposefully distorting blah blah blah...)

Anyway, you really resemble (or she resembles you) Bjork in the eyes. Absolutely gorgeous. Stunning.


Wow, you really are obsessed! Maybe you should talk to someone about it. Might help.

To the OP...that was interesting. Thanks




pahunkboy -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 7:25:24 AM)

Good god- where DOES the time go?   

2003 is a RIOT.  WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO THIS WORLD>  I want to cry for how messed up "we" made it.




hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 7:26:54 AM)

~fr~
 
They  might not Intend for this yearly list to make anyone feel old - but damnitall, every year it Suceeds in making me feel Old! LOL




GabrielleSlave -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 7:30:26 AM)

What's all this about being asked for a living will when you go into a US hospital then?  Are they actually planning on killing you?  The rest of the list is quite funny...





pahunkboy -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 7:35:47 AM)

When Dedee myers white house spokeswoman- did not know there was a "cuban missile crises"  I cringed. How can you not know that?

The list is funny- but also alarming. I wish I could do something about it.

to the OP= good topic!!

oh- one phraze we dont see,  "information superhighway"  




Termyn8or -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 7:39:52 AM)

This sort of subject has come up before, but I never knew they actually had an "official" position on it. I don't know really if this is a good thing.

I don't want to speil about it but how many have never seen an eight track tape, but to amend that, magnetic tape at all. Or floppy disks for that matter. How many would get into an older car with a cassette player and wonder what the hell it is ? I have a secret for them. My CDROM case which holds some of my software and backup is actually a 5¼" floppy disk case. It was actually given to me by someone thinking "We don't use those old type floppies anymore", not realizing that CDs fit just fine.

Things change, from when they stopped making record players capable of playing 78s, to now when they don't make them at all. But is knowledge of these things arcane to the point it should be discluded ? That seems to be what these people are saying.

All the technolology developed over the decades sometimes seems to be the means to an end, but that is not true, it was the end. The olman told me we actually had a wire recording of the World Series when the Cleveland Indians won in the seventh game. A buddy of mine's family actually had a record cutter. Damndest thing I saw in a long time, a record player with two arms. If I could get my hands on that old wire recording it would be quite a project for me to build something to play it on, but being today of course I would burn it to CD.

My Grandfather was quite a shutterbug and had a movie camera, everything was on 8 mm or super 8. Recently we got something in the mail from my Uncle, the films he shot, converted to DVD.

There is only one thing that stays the same - the fact that everything changes, well almost everything. I don't think people have changed very much. The great unwashed are now washed, everyday people have things only the rich used to have. There are still shysters and slicksters, as well as people who will help their friends, as well as a stranger now and then. There are the greedy and the needy, haves and have nots. At the core, people are pretty much the same, we just have cooler toys now.

I am not so sure that's a good thing. People worked on their own cars, even TVs. Drugstores used to have tube testers and they would grab them and test them, when one tested bad they replaced it. Voila, it works. They did their own tuneups on their cars for the most part, and there was alot more to it back then than now.

All in all though, I don't think humanity has benefitted much from technology.It has made us lazy in the mind. I know that I am talking from a technological standpoint, and that is not the whole of the subject, but I think I am qualified to do so.

My Uncle and his one son actually built their own amps for their stereos, I have built a few but my specialty was car amps. I sold one to guy guy and I told him "Be careful, this thing is powerful", and sure as shit a few months later he shows up with blown speakers. I have also built a few other things, mostly specialised purpose test jigs.

Where has the desire to build and innovate gone ? Some answers may follow. I was going to build a piece of test equipment and I had high hopes. I thought I might even market it. Then I find out I can buy one for fifty bucks. It has been done for me. I might still build it one day because becoming familiar with what you can buy, I think my design is better. But I lack the ambition as long as my needs are met.

I know how to use a dwell meter. Most people who had Fords and Chryslers never heard of the thing. They would just set the point gap and consider it done. It wasn't. Remember dwell meters ? They had all these scales for four, six and eight cylinders, but the correct setting in degrees on each scale fell in place, and on the percentage scale it was sixty something percent dwell no matter the cylinder count. If there were digital dwell meters I would probably never know that.

Back then you could learn from technology. You could take a pin and an empty paper towel roll, stick it in the groove of a record on the player and hear it, you would know what sound is. With a CD it ain't happenin.

Certain aspects of technology have advanced exponentially, but people's interest in understanding it is gone. People used to be fascinated by their new toys and some wanted to take them apart and see what makes them tick, or whatever it does, but no more.

Select few actually know the new technology. This wonderful CD technology brought to us by Phillips and Sony, known as the CD, is now obsolete. Now there are DVDs which are just fine for audio recordings, can be better at it and hold alot more. Now DVDs are obsolete, they have the blu-ray disks now. Wait, those are also obsolete because they have come up with a multilayer disk that puts a blu-ray to shame. We are talking lots of terabytes, and the only reason they are not selling them is because nobody really has a use for them at this time.

So where are we headed ? To a world where people don't even know how to open the hood of their car ?

So the question is, is that a list of things to be avoided, or is it a list of things that when one does use them as a reference or refers to them, to expect to have to explain it ? If the former I deem it a bad thing, if the latter it's a good thing.

T




cpK69 -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 7:54:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

So the question is, is that a list of things to be avoided, or is it a list of things that when one does use them as a reference or refers to them, to expect to have to explain it ? If the former I deem it a bad thing, if the latter it's a good thing.

T


Agreed.
 
Kimberly




pahunkboy -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 8:16:37 AM)

Well T,  war makes tech.

As bad as it is to say this- WAR.   Starting with food additives to feed the troops early on.  Thru each war we later get dazzling civilian aps to the war tools.

Today we enjoy the 'fruits' of ww2- the trickle down is hard to nail at current... but trust me war makes destruction.  war makes nifty gadgets.


I had forgotten about tube testers. lol.
Turn tables are back for the record spinners.  sorta.




Nikolette -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 9:17:30 AM)

cpk69: Yeah, I know but .... as I said, that was when I was graduating, and my year of birth was '83. I checked again and had someone else. Its just weird. But thanks for the help!




Nikolette -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 9:28:11 AM)

quote:

Anyway, you really resemble (or she resembles you) Bjork in the eyes. Absolutely gorgeous. Stunning.


Aw.... thanks. I get that frequently depending on what kind of make-up I've gussied up with.
And I checked the math again, its just weirdo. [:-]




outlier -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 9:43:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikolette

cpk69: Yeah, I know but .... as I said, that was when I was graduating, and my year of birth was '83. I checked again and had someone else. Its just weird. But thanks for the help!


Nikolette,

"Remember the 4 year delay. 
Freshman this year are the class of 2012 list"

The list is built on the assumption of an 18 year delay between
birthdates and entering college.  Then you add in the four years of
college to get the "class of" number which refers to the expected
year of graduation.  

College classes are referred to as the year they graduate.  So the
total difference would be 22 years. 

Now some us started college when we were 17 not 18.  Some of us
worked and went to college part time so we did not matriculate in 4 years,
etc., etc.  It's just a reference for how fast the world is changing around us.

It was meant to be fun, not stress you out.

I know this is a line you must hear a lot from doms on this site but:
Just relax and enjoy it.[:D]

Outlier






dawntreader -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 9:47:46 AM)

Fun post Outlier[:D]




Thadius -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 10:02:53 AM)

My favorite couple were about the Tonight Show (Jay Leno) and Watergate (being where Monica had an apartment).

I enjoy these types of things, thanks for posting the link.




cpK69 -> RE: The Beloit College Mindset List for 2012 is out. Your reaction? (8/19/2008 10:12:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikolette

cpk69: Yeah, I know but .... as I said, that was when I was graduating, and my year of birth was '83. I checked again and had someone else. Its just weird. But thanks for the help!


Are you thinking highschool or college?
 
Kimberly




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